Rulebook Query

[playdaball]

What is the rule with regard to goalline dropouts i.e. - do they have to be drop kicks?

I watched the Warriors - Eels game and the Eels regathered from a 10 metre goalline drop out but to my naked eye the kick restart appeared to be a grubber not a drop kick.

Is there a ref or a trainspotter who can assist here?

 

[Iafeta]

I don't know exactly, but as long as it goes 10 metres before its retouched. It has to be though in the form of a drop kick, a grubber shouldn't be allowed but I don't think it has to go in the air 10 metres..

 

[playdaball]

I don't know exactly, but as long as it goes 10 metres before its retouched. It has to be though in the form of a drop kick, a grubber shouldn't be allowed but I don't think it has to go in the air 10 metres..

Iafeta

You saw the kick did you think it was a droppie? I have not seen it via a replay yet

 

[Iafeta]

Didn't really look that closely mate. I was more fuming at the Warriors for not covering it up. Newcastle and Parramatta are past masters at the short kick.

 

[Shagsta]

It has to be a drop kick, and it has to go 10 metres. It's allowed the bounce within the 10 metres.

When I watched the game yesterday it seemed as though it was a drop kick, just with no power in it.

 

[***MH***]

definition of a drop kick from the rule book glossary
DROP KICK is a kick whereby the ball is dropped from the hands (or
hand) and is kicked immediately it rebounds from the
ground.

Section 8, rule 6 (d)
6. A player who kicks off or drops-out shall be penalised if he:–
(d) kicks the ball other than in the prescribed
manner.

Section 8, rule 8
A penalty kick resulting from any offence at the dropout
from between the posts shall be taken from the
centre of the line drawn parallel to and ten metres
from the goal line.

 

[parra pete]

Explain the try scored by the Warriors off a ball propelled forward off Steve Price. It MUST HAVE been a try because both referee and video ref agreed. It is just in following League for over 50 years I have never seen anything like it.

 

[ngap]

Why can't a grubber be a drop kick?

 

[Munky]

When I used to muck around with a footy in the backyard my drop kick and grubber technique where basically the same for dropping the ball onto the ground before the foot came through.

With a dropkick I follow through straight with my right leg but with a grubber I'd swing the leg out a little to come around from the side so the ball would stay down.

 

[***MH***]

Why can't a grubber be a drop kick?

as long as the ball hits the deck before it is kicked, whatever happens after that is play on....

 

[ngap]

as long as the ball hits the deck before it is kicked, whatever happens after that is play on....

That was my point, a grubber can be a drop kick or not, it depends on how the bal lis kicked not the result.

 

[***MH***]

Explain the try scored by the Warriors off a ball propelled forward off Steve Price. It MUST HAVE been a try because both referee and video ref agreed. It is just in following League for over 50 years I have never seen anything like it.

Straight from the book >
KNOCK-ON means to knock the ball towards the opponents’ dead
ball line with hand or arm, while playing at the ball.
The officials have interpreted the ball coming off Price's shoulder, not being part of his arm.

 

[Iafeta]

Explain the try scored by the Warriors off a ball propelled forward off Steve Price. It MUST HAVE been a try because both referee and video ref agreed. It is just in following League for over 50 years I have never seen anything like it.

Off the player's shoulder. Much like if it comes off a player's head it is deemed play on. If the player comes from an onside position and regathers it is play on. I have seen falcon's in the past couple of years that have resulted in tries.

A knock is deemed if you play at the ball and it comes off the part of the arm.

 

[Iafeta]

Why can't a grubber be a drop kick?

A grubber you kick before the ball hits the ground.

If it hits the ground, is kicked, skims along the ground you'd deem that a drop kick in this instance and play on.

 

[ngap]

A grubber you kick before the ball hits the ground.

If it hits the ground, is kicked, skims along the ground you'd deem that a drop kick in this instance and play on.

So a drop kick can be a grubber, which is what I meant they are not mutually exclusive like the first post seems to say.

Which is why I am wondering what the original poster meant by grubber and drop kick.

 

[Orca]

Tim Smith's kick WASNT a dop kick it was a grubber, Crap call by the ref.

 

[Eelectrica]

Tim Smith got away with one. The referees never seem to look that closely at the drop kicks. They might start watching Timmy a little more from now on.

 

[bluesbreaker]

Lewis did a similiar thing when the ref wasn't watching in an origin game no? My brother in law told me about it, but I've never heard of it before or since, so he might just be telling pork pies.

Also, i'm sure everyone has seen someone knock on and then kick the ball forward (in a similiar fashion to a drop kick, i.e. hits the deck, and they kick it on the volley as a reaction)? Hypothetically, if a player were to do that, and claim that they'd intentionally kicked a drop kick, would it be play on? Has this ever happened before?

 

[Iafeta]

So a drop kick can be a grubber, which is what I meant they are not mutually exclusive like the first post seems to say.

Which is why I am wondering what the original poster meant by grubber and drop kick.

Yes, but the ball still has to hit the ground before being kicked, which is the disputed part of it.

 

[Willow]

A drop kick is in the way it is kicked, and is not when it hits the ground.
Sooner or later, it has to come back down to earth... whether its 50m or 50mm, its still a drop kick.

A grubber is a description of how the ball travels - that is, a low kick along the ground - and can (given the circumstance) be either a punt kick or a drop kick.