Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[franklin2323]

The intercept was the main mistake and that was more bad luck than bad decision making. The centre rushed up while the winger was 20m back, only Vunivalu attempts that jumping catch on Crichton's shoulders because he's nuts. Otherwise the errors from other players and the Naden/May selection were the problems.

The lack of repeat sets? 1st we get it attacking their line up goes a stupid kick when the better option ( What has worked well all year) was to roll it in goal and build pressure.

We had 2 repeat sets in 3 finals games and 1 of those were from Luai bombing that try v Souths. Didn't find touch once.

He also missed Papenhuyzen too and didn't find touch with a penalty kick with still time to comeback.

 

[WestyLife]

I assume this means the club is now starting to publicly announce player movements.

 

[franklin2323]

Its even easier to blame Nathan. His results as a 20 year old kid in origin mean nothing

He is showing Mitchell Pearce like characteristics early on...He admitted himself he played bad. So not blaming him because it is easy

 

[herbert henry1908]

That is how benches are used these days. Look at the Storm. Tino who is a gun only got 20 mins. Hynes got nothing

I doubt we trained to have 18 errors so I can't put it all on coaching but as a whole need to own a poor final series

Kikau was making mistakes, and we were chasing points. It doesn’t matter how other teams use their bench, you need to respond to what’s happening in front of you.

A team leading 26-0 is not going to use their bench in the same way as a team chasing, at least it shouldn’t play out like that.

It’s like Ivan had a predetermined plan on how to use the bench and he wouldn’t budge no matter what.

 

[WestyLife]

The lack of repeat sets? 1st we get it attacking their line up goes a stupid kick when the better option ( What has worked well all year) was to roll it in goal and build pressure.

We had 2 repeat sets in 3 finals games and 1 of those were from Luai bombing that try v Souths. Didn't find touch once.

He also missed Papenhuyzen too and didn't find touch with a penalty kick with still time to comeback.

The penalty kick was another freak thing like the intercept. Papensonic jumped 10 metres out and high for that.

 

[Jane Murray]

James Tamou headlines a group of six players who have parted ways with Panthers following the conclusion of the 2020 NRL season.

The departing Tamou is joined by Jack Hetherington, Caleb Aekins, Malakai Watene-Zelezniak, Pat Hollis and Brayden McGrady.

Tamou is headed to Wests Tigers, while Jack Hetherington has signed with the Bulldogs and Caleb Aekins will join Canberra Raiders.


"This has been an extraordinary season for Panthers and each one of these players contributed to that success," Panthers General Manager Rugby League Matt Cameron said.

"From the leadership of James Tamou, to the on-field exploits of Jack, Caleb and Malakai, and the enthusiasm of Pat and Brayden at training, we are grateful for their contributions to our club.

"Regardless of whether they were in the team each week, they sacrificed their personal freedoms to live in our NRL bubble for the best part of six months.

"We thank them for their service to Panthers and wish them all the best with their future endeavours."

 

[herbert henry1908]

The penalty kick was another freak thing like the intercept. Papensonic jumped 10 metres out and high for that.

It had to be his worst game if the year. I agree with Franklin in this one, Nathan doesn’t have a great record in big games. I wouldn’t say he’s been bad in origin, but he hasn’t stepped up either. It’ll be interesting how he responds next week.

 

[Andy_P]

We lost because Ivan didn't have them mentally ready and played May at centre for some reason. We choke again and he should go

Have to say when Tamou reacted the way he did with the coin toss it didn't seem right...

 

[The_Frog]

Why wait until the 60 min mark to bring Naden on?

Naden came on soon after the Papenhuyzen try, played 32 minutes.

 

[The_Frog]

We lost because Ivan didn't have them mentally ready and played May at centre for some reason. We choke again and he should go

The reason for it is well known. Morris stood Naden up in the first final and the coach feared that would happen again. With hindsight it was not a good move but that's the way things go. May handled the role well the previous week. If this issue had been discovered earlier Whare might have played.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Gosh or gosh this forum hosts some nasayers. The team came 2nd overall after loosing (narrowly) the grandfinal.

After reading some of the posts I felt sure I'd slept through the season and Penrith didn't make the 8.

 

[WestyLife]

It had to be his worst game if the year. I agree with Franklin in this one, Nathan doesn’t have a great record in big games. I wouldn’t say he’s been bad in origin, but he hasn’t stepped up either. It’ll be interesting how he responds next week.

18 errors from the team and he still got a try and we played with reasonable field position for most of the first half.

 

[mxlegend99]

I know it easy to blame Ivan but look at Nathan's origin record. Even finals record he doesn't turn up in big games.

Nathan has never lost an Origin series and has won more than 50% of his finals games.

He has 5 tries in 9 finals matches for a 55.56% win rate.. He was dissapointing in the grand final but everything was going against us and he just wasnt good enough to turn things around in his first grand final. It's not an experience you can prepare for. Its one you need to learn from.

Mitchell Pearce has 6 tries in 16 finals matches... And only a 50% finals win rate despite most of his career being spent in a star studded line up. Oh and his origin record is losing more series than any half ever. Unlosable games were lost.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Naden came on soon after the Papenhuyzen try, played 32 minutes.

My bad, it was still too long though. He should’ve come on at halftime, we were already chasing 22 points.

 

[herbert henry1908]

18 errors from the team and he still got a try and we played with reasonable field position for most of the first half.

What score did you give him out of 10?

 

[herbert henry1908]

Nathan has never lost an Origin series and has won more than 50% of his finals games.

He has 5 tries in 9 finals matches for a 55.56% win rate.. He was dissapointing in the grand final but everything was going against us and he just wasnt good enough to turn things around in his first grand final. It's not an experience you can prepare for. Its one you need to learn from.

Mitchell Pearce has 6 tries in 16 finals matches... And only a 50% finals win rate despite most of his career being spent in a star studded line up. Oh and his origin record is losing more series than any half ever. Unlosable games were lost.

None of that changes the fact he’s yet to have a big performance in the biggest of games. It’s something he needs to improve on.

 

[mxlegend99]

Gosh or gosh this forum hosts some nasayers. The team came 2nd overall after loosing (narrowly) the grandfinal.

After reading some of the posts I felt sure I'd slept through the season and Penrith didn't make the 8.

Im a pessimist normally. Thinking about how we could or should have done better. Yes there's things we could have changed where we maybe win the premiership

But f**k did we ever overachieve or what. On paper that Storm side was better in most positions. We had question marks on positions before a ball was kicked.

Honestly this team was amazing. We set a record winning streak. We made a grand final. We made everyone hate us because we were consistently winning. All season we lost 2 games for a combined 12 points. Literally our worst result is losing by a try. It's insane.

 

[herbert henry1908]

People are just analysing why we lost. Honestly the whinging about the criticism is worse than the criticism.

I’ve said it a thousand times, but the whole point of these boards is to talk about the team. It’s only natural after a big loss that people will share why they think we lost.

 

[mxlegend99]

None of that changes the fact he’s yet to have a big performance in the biggest of games. It’s something he needs to improve on.

3 tries and a field goal to beat the back to back premiers is not a big performance?

Followed by 2 try assists and 100% of his goals to put us into a grand final from his boot.

His kicking game might not look fancy. But it helped us get those 2 close wins with less possession. His kicking against Souths managed to limit a team with 55% of the ball to making 100 less run metres than the team with 45% of the ball.

These weren't Thurston or Joey like displays of God amongst men. But they were pretty big performances still.

 

[WestyLife]

What score did you give him out of 10?

I haven't been game to rate in the other thread but I'd go a 6 maybe. Still have to deduct a few points obviously he wasn't a world beater by any means.