Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[franklin2323]

Yep exactly what I said in my response to Alice. Nothing wrong with that style but you need impact from his position.

That was my issue with this squad too many play the same style. For example Ellis same style prop. That with guys that can play one set position

 

[tripster]

Every team has (and under the salary cap is forced to have) one or two Leota style forwards on their bench.

He plays 20-30 minutes, runs hard and straight, hits hard and these days rarely makes errors. We don’t lose the battle in the middle once he comes on, and his stats are equivalent to a lot of other bench forwards in the comp. A Jeremy Latimore type forward.

He is also recognised for being a disciplined trainer and committed to the team (which serves as a role model for all the younger Polynesian players coming through our junior grades).

We’d all love to have a Taumalolo coming off the bench but you need to be realistic given we also have a cap. I don’t get why Leota gets such a hard time on these forums.

 

[OldPanther]

Every team has (and under the salary cap is forced to have) one or two Leota style forwards on their bench.

He plays 20-30 minutes, runs hard and straight, hits hard and these days rarely makes errors. We don’t lose the battle in the middle once he comes on, and his stats are equivalent to a lot of other bench forwards in the comp. A Jeremy Latimore type forward.

He is also recognised for being a disciplined trainer and committed to the team (which serves as a role model for all the younger Polynesian players coming through our junior grades).

We’d all love to have a Taumololo coming off the bench but you need to be realistic. I don’t get why Leota gets such a hard time on these forums.

It's not even that he's bad. We could use his spot as a development spot for guys though and not lose anything.

 

[tripster]

It's not even that he's bad. We could use his spot as a development spot for guys though and not lose anything.

You can’t say that with any confidence.

And who is the player?

Debut some untested prop because they might be better and expect them to perform just as well? It is rare that you debut some guy in the middle and can expect all of that.

Leniu is getting a go, and we will see at some point if he is better than Leota.

But if the argument at the moment is no more than “Well Leota is solid but maybe some unknown young guy is better so we should give them Leota’s spot and see if it works out”, then that’s silly.

 

[OldPanther]

You can’t say that with any confidence.

And who is the player?

Debut some untested prop because they might be better and expect them to perform just as well? It is rare that you debut some guy in the middle and can expect all of that.

Leniu is getting a go, and we will see at some point if he is better than Leota.

But if the argument at the moment is no more than “Well Leota is solid but maybe some unknown young guy is better so we should give them Leota’s spot and see if it works out”, then that’s silly.

No the argument is he gives no better than the other props so replace with an impact prop or use it as a development spot for our young props.

 

[franklin2323]

You can’t say that with any confidence.

And who is the player?

Debut some untested prop because they might be better and expect them to perform just as well? It is rare that you debut some guy in the middle and can expect all of that.

Leniu is getting a go, and we will see at some point if he is better than Leota.

But if the argument at the moment is no more than “Well Leota is solid but maybe some unknown young guy is better so we should give them Leota’s spot and see if it works out”, then that’s silly.

So sign someone tested to give something else then but can't have a team of just the same boring players

 

[Abacus]

No the argument is he gives no better than the other props so replace with an impact prop or use it as a development spot for our young props.

Leota is the young prop - still only 23. Should play his 50th NRL game in the next couple of weeks. Still a baby.

 

[franklin2323]

No the argument is he gives no better than the other props so replace with an impact prop or use it as a development spot for our young props.

We have a lot of 80 min forwards that the bench gets 20-30min outside of RCG. Leota to me you start or not play him. Better to get explosive players on the bench

 

[betcats]

You can’t say that with any confidence.

And who is the player?

Debut some untested prop because they might be better and expect them to perform just as well? It is rare that you debut some guy in the middle and can expect all of that.

Leniu is getting a go, and we will see at some point if he is better than Leota.

But if the argument at the moment is no more than “Well Leota is solid but maybe some unknown young guy is better so we should give them Leota’s spot and see if it works out”, then that’s silly.

Nothing wrong with giving leniu a run for a game at the expense of one of the bench forwards imo assuming he’s earning it on the training paddock. He’s certainly been impressing in nsw cup.

 

[franklin2323]

Leota is the young prop - still only 23. Should play his 50th NRL game in the next couple of weeks. Still a baby.

Maybe so but doesn't offer an offload or bend the defence

 

[franklin2323]

Every team has (and under the salary cap is forced to have) one or two Leota style forwards on their bench.

He plays 20-30 minutes, runs hard and straight, hits hard and these days rarely makes errors. We don’t lose the battle in the middle once he comes on, and his stats are equivalent to a lot of other bench forwards in the comp. A Jeremy Latimore type forward.

He is also recognised for being a disciplined trainer and committed to the team (which serves as a role model for all the younger Polynesian players coming through our junior grades).

We’d all love to have a Taumalolo coming off the bench but you need to be realistic given we also have a cap. I don’t get why Leota gets such a hard time on these forums.

If he was starting and doing what he does all good but there is potentially someone that offers more why not give them a game or 2

 

[Coast panther]

I reckon welsh and Brailey and if we can managed it pap from storm would totally change our team

 

[Coast panther]

Leave leota until Lenui is up to it

 

[OldPanther]

Leota is the young prop - still only 23. Should play his 50th NRL game in the next couple of weeks. Still a baby.

I'm thinking play someone like Lenui one week then Leota 4 weeks rinse and repeat.

 

[martielang]

Maybe so but doesn't offer an offload or bend the defence

Leota did both of those things against Souths. Changed momentum when he came on. His game will develop as he gets older, as abacus said, still very young for a FR.

Leota has been better than RCG by about $600k.

 

[Abacus]

Nothing wrong with giving leniu a run for a game at the expense of one of the bench forwards imo assuming he’s earning it on the training paddock. He’s certainly been impressing in nsw cup.

Just not sure we can expect Leniu to come in and play prop at NRL level straight up. But a game here and there is only going to help his development.

 

[Abacus]

Maybe so but doesn't offer an offload or bend the defence

Really? Stats say he has 8 offloads this season. And IMO, his leg drive post contact is better than RCG. I also like his defence, seems to hit with his shoulder more than most.

 

[Exsilium]

Leota did both of those things against Souths. Changed momentum when he came on. His game will develop as he gets older, as abacus said, still very young for a FR.

Leota has been better than RCG by about $600k.

Leota needs more game time and I am confident he will be a solid first grader.

My concern is that IC won't give him that time. In similar fashion to how he banished Sele from FG despite being good for us when he played.

If we don't use him, I have no doubt he'd be picked up quickly by another club.

 

[Exsilium]

A Jeremy Latimore type forward.

RCG is a poor mans Jeremy Latimore.

In all seriousness, you're 100% right. You need those players who can continually produce. It's not just about stats. It's what these players bring to the squad as a whole. Training ethic, leadership, accountability and professionalism. On and off the field, these guys are vital.

You can't have a team of superstars without having the right balance of solid first graders who get the job done.

We miss the mark when it comes to having a team with a balanced roster which combines talent, stable first graders and upcoming talent.

We tend to be proportioned toward having more potential and raw talent than a hard, well balanced squad, who on game day, can produce similar results week to week.

 

[Abacus]

I reckon welsh and Brailey and if we can managed it pap from storm would totally change our team

Doesn't hurt to dream