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Poupou Escobar

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Nah, I described him as standing hooker for 2 reasons:
1) to show how daft it is to make so many arguments about how to label someone, and whether a lock should be labelled a middle half (etc etc)
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2) because, if we are going to be particular, a standing hooker would touch the ball before the halves, and would have the job of (a) playing the forwards through the middle or (b) passing it on to the halves to orchestrate the set plays out wide.

Based on (2), my description is far more apt (if we are describing backrow by role), and it makes (1) a lot more fun!

And, based on your own admission, hooker is a special case (or dummy half). Can teams not have 2 dummy halves? One who plays with his head down, one who stands? It is pretty much exactly what Paulo did last season - played forwards through the middle, darted from 'standing dummy half' himself, or chucked it to the halves.
A genuine 'middle half' would have the option to run a play, or kick, or play out wide on occasion (as the actual halves switch sides on rare occasion, or play inside the other half in attacking sets on occasion - tends to happen when there is a 2 option play being called).

Anyway, all moot points as (so far) this year, Joseph Paulo has played a more traditional type role.

You can call it whatever you want. I just think 'standing second dummy half' is too clunky. 'Middle half' is just as descriptive and easier to say. 'Lock' describes very little about the role and doesn't distinguish it from other types of middle forwards.
 

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Anyone with a tattoo on their neck is trouble !!

Yes I'd get into lots of trouble. :cool:

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oldmancraigy

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You can call it whatever you want. I just think 'standing second dummy half' is too clunky. 'Middle half' is just as descriptive and easier to say. 'Lock' describes very little about the role and doesn't distinguish it from other types of middle forwards.

Middle half is about as descriptive as lock! But you can call it whatever you want.

Harken back to the days of the Travis Norton style lock....
 

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Middle half is about as descriptive as lock! But you can call it whatever you want.

Yeah one guy attacks at first receiver and defends in the middle, the other doesn't lock scrums.

Harken back to the days of the Travis Norton style lock....

There were plenty of lock/five-eighths back in the day when the two positions were often split left and right. But now the 'five-eighth' is split with the 'halfback', and the 'bloke who wears number 13' (probably the best descriptor) defends in the middle and fills any of a number of roles in attack. Middle half is one of them. So is standing second dummy half I guess. Locking scrums isn't.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Watmong doesn't play middle half

Ah that's right, he locks scrums.

He's a standard middle forward who doesn't pass enough (per carry) to be a middle half and doesn't run enough (per minute) to be a prop. May as well call him a lock, to distinguish him from other middle forwards.
 

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Parramatta facing NRL investigation over three incidents, including Nathan Peats concussion




The ugly fallout from a weekend of concussion controversy could leave Parramatta nursing one nasty and expensive black eye.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Eels are being investigated for three separate incidents in the ugly loss to the Warriors — and if found guilty they face a possible six-figure fine, loss of competition points and the suspension of staff.
While it is understood the NRL is still not considering employing independent doctors to monitor concussion incidents, NRL head of football Todd Greenberg has vowed to get tougher on clubs ignoring player safety guidelines.
But that is cold comfort for one of Melbourne’s top sporting doctors, who declared the decision to allow Nathan Peats to play on after his ugly knockout was medically “inappropriate”.
The Daily Telegraph has also discovered the Eels are being questioned over separate incidents involving Isaac De Gois and Will Hopoate in the same game.
Manly are also in the NRL’s firing line over an incident involving young centre Brayden Wiliame who was also allowed to return to action after a head knock, while South Sydney are still be investigated for an incident in round two involving Adam Reynolds.
The NRL has the ability not only to fine clubs but deduct competition points (even if they did not win the game) and suspend staff.
While the NRL would not speculate on possible outcomes, last year four clubs were whacked with $20,000 fines relating to concussion breaches — and all those incidents involved the reaction of onfield trainers, not club doctors.
That is the difference here because the players were taken from the field before being allowed back on.
But while it could take the NRL another week to determine its findings, The Daily Telegraph sent vision of the Peats incident to respected sports doctor Peter Larkins who ruled on the spot.
“It was an inappropriate call by the medical person,” Larkins said.
“To me he clearly was unconscious and had a significant concussion episode. So end of story in AFL circles and other sports at international level.
“He is finished for the day ... no matter how well he does in the tests subsequent to that.”
Larkins also accused the NRL of “dragging its feet” on player safety issues.
“I just want to make it clear that the NRL seems to be the one sport that is dragging its feet,” he said.
“And I don’t know how many times I’m going to say that because I said it in 2014, I said it in 2013, and I’m saying it in 2015.
“I think it really, really puts enormous pressure on the League, the Commisioners and the lawyers for the League to allow these things to continue to be brought up in the public eye.
“It can only lead to bad news.”
Asked how much an AFL club would be fined for allowing a player back on the field after similar incident to what Peats suffered, Larkins said: “$50,000.”
Larkins said he was also concerned about allegations coaching staff might be overruling medical staff at some clubs.
While Greenberg would not comment on possible outcomes, he said in a statement that the NRL “will impose heavy penalties and strengthen the concussion policy if necessary to protect player welfare”.
“The last thing anyone, particularly the fans, wants to see is players put at risk by being sent back on the field when they should be taken out of the game, assessed and treated,” Greenberg said.
“So, if we need to change our policy relating to concussion to make it stronger then that is what we will do.”

From <http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/parramatta-facing-nrl-investigation-over-three-incidents-including-nathan-peats-concussion/story-fndv34of-1227275428239>
 
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So a club doctor performed the standard concussion tests and deemed them fit to return, and supposedly that's worth of a six figure fine. But if a club refuses to take a player off (not even for assessment) it's a $20k fine?
 

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Winning 3 games in a row makes them "due" for a loss?

Apparently Souths have won 14 matches in a row. I'm guessing that includes Final Series from last year, 9's, Charity Shield, World Club Challenge, 3 Rounds of the comp
 
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Apparently Souths have won 14 matches in a row. I'm guessing that includes Final Series from last year, 9's, Charity Shield, World Club Challenge, 3 Rounds of the comp

They have had a pretty big off season. I think they will lose soon, hopefully it's to us haha
 

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Only the eels would lose competition points they hadn't won.

It could only ever happen to us.

the NRL will probably deduct 6 competition points, 2 points for each infringement (Peat, De gios, Hopoate) and fine us $300,000 which is to come from our prize money over the last 5 years. Its the only fair outcome.

Souths are ok and wont be fined because Reynolds wasn't seriously concussed.

Manly will also be ok for some mystery reason.

the fish and chip wrappers will read Parramatta : club in crisis. Foran will be rumoured to exit because of the fallout from the board being forced to sack our doctors. Peats angry at Arthur etc. I have saved you all the hassle of buying the Daily telegraph, you can thank me later.
 

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So an AFL doctor not even in the same country is in a better position to judge wether one of our players in concussed??? Who asked this merkin anyway??? Seems like another beat up against Parra.
 
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