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Rumoured Signings

Vic Mackey

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Its now been reported Lomax initially said he wanted to come back and play for Parra, which they denies. If this is the case I would assume he has a decent case, as they are absolutely restricting his trade
 
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Its now been reported Lomax initially said he wanted to come back and play for Parra, which they denies. If this is the case I would assume he has a decent case, as they are absolutely restricting his trade

Sorry, but that's a b/s argument. He asked for a release, which was granted with conditions attached so he could go play another sport. It's not the Eels fault it fell over, and as they probably spent the money freed up by his elease on upgrading/retaining current players, to then turn around and expect them to have cap room to take him back is dumb.

There is nothing to stop him plying his trade for the Waratahs, the ARU, French or Japaneses rugby union, nor the UK Super League. His only restriction is playing for another NRL club prior to 2029 as per the conditions of his release. That, I believe is a very long bow.
 

Bazal

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Its now been reported Lomax initially said he wanted to come back and play for Parra, which they denies. If this is the case I would assume he has a decent case, as they are absolutely restricting his trade

Meaningless efforts to muddy the waters, unless there's a clause that gives Parra first bite of the cherry for any return to NRL which has never been reported.

Not only is it unreasonable to expect Parra to just have room and capacity in their planning to bring him back offhand, but it's unreasonable to expect them to have obligation or desire to take him back in circumstances where he's mutually parted ways and expressed no desire to ever return
 

MrBlack

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Sorry, but that's a b/s argument. He asked for a release, which was granted with conditions attached so he could go play another sport. It's not the Eels fault it fell over, and as they probably spent the money freed up by his elease on upgrading/retaining current players, to then turn around and expect them to have cap room to take him back is dumb.

There is nothing to stop him plying his trade for the Waratahs, the ARU, French or Japaneses rugby union, nor the UK Super League. His only restriction is playing for another NRL club prior to 2029 as per the conditions of his release. That, I believe is a very long bow.
Agree with you entirely, however, it will come down to fine print wording in the release. None of us here I assume are privy to that.

IR courts can be very sympathetic to ex employees.

FWIW - My solution would be the transfer fee paid by the Storm which then can be added to the Eels salary cap, but comes off the Storms cap
 

Vic Mackey

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Sorry, but that's a b/s argument. He asked for a release, which was granted with conditions attached so he could go play another sport. It's not the Eels fault it fell over, and as they probably spent the money freed up by his elease on upgrading/retaining current players, to then turn around and expect them to have cap room to take him back is dumb.

There is nothing to stop him plying his trade for the Waratahs, the ARU, French or Japaneses rugby union, nor the UK Super League. His only restriction is playing for another NRL club prior to 2029 as per the conditions of his release. That, I believe is a very long bow.

Whos to say he is suited for ARU, French or Japanese Rugby? Has he ever played 15 man a side union professionally? Its a totally different sport. Would you say he can just go to AFL?

If a Basketballer did this would you say 'Just go play netball'
 

Trifili13

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Agree with you entirely, however, it will come down to fine print wording in the release. None of us here I assume are privy to that.

IR courts can be very sympathetic to ex employees.

FWIW - My solution would be the transfer fee paid by the Storm which then can be added to the Eels salary cap, but comes off the Storms cap
Can't give Parra more salary cap as disadvantages other clubs.
 

Bazal

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Can't give Parra more salary cap as disadvantages other clubs.

Cap dispensation happens fairly commonly and would be a genuine option to avoid trades for players who don't wanna go. As much as I hate Melbourne though (@Saxon FFS!) you can't lower their cap. They're just looking to sign a mostly free agent.
 
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Whos to say he is suited for ARU, French or Japanese Rugby? Has he ever played 15 man a side union professionally? Its a totally different sport. Would you say he can just go to AFL?

If a Basketballer did this would you say 'Just go play netball'

So he was going to go to R360 which was a rugby union competition yet, according to you, he now may not be suited to playing union in Australia, France or Japan? Sorry Vic, you have contradicted yourself mate.
 
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If the Eels spent the Lomax money already, then they cannot afford Coates, Howarth or Uto either.
Why do they have to have spent it?

The Eels may have spent some of it, just not all of it. Hence they couldn't afford to bring back Lomax on the money hge was reportedly on when he was released.

On a side note, considering this is the second contract he asked out of in 2 years, why would any club consider signing him?
 

The Colonel

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The Eels may have spent some of it, just not all of it. Hence they couldn't afford to bring back Lomax on the money hge was reportedly on when he was released.

On a side note, considering this is the second contract he asked out of in 2 years, why would any club consider signing him?
There has been no suggestion that Lomax's money has been spent and they still have three and potentially four spots available in their 30 man squad. They just said they didn't want him back which given the circumstances is quite understandable.

According to Lomax he had no interest in rugby league anymore and he had just asked for a release to explore other interests. It only highlights your second question.
 
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I think we can all acknowledge that Lomax is a dunce of the highest order and the best outcome would be for him to have to sit out the length of his Parra contract
 
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I think we can all acknowledge that Lomax is a dunce of the highest order and the best outcome would be for him to have to sit out the length of his Parra contract
wont happen. he might sit out a season sure but he wont sit out 3 and the court would not judge him to sit out 3.

rugby league career is short on average 3 or 4 seasons or around 65 games. he sits out 3 year then thats impeding his ability to make a living in australia which he is a citizen of in the career profession that he has set skills in.

no argument he was silly and a dunce but theres merits that this will be judged on and if it becomes a true restrain of trade than scope time and location are as per courts discretion. the fact theres international comp in esl is also irrelevant as it'll be judged on an aussie citizen applying his trade in australia as thats what court can judge on. thats my understanding of it anyways
 
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