Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

I have faith in Gutho, honestly if Morgan can win a comp, why can't Gutherson after he settles into being a regular 6.

Because Lachlan Coote provides their second kicking option.

 

[hindy111]

Add to that Granville, Thurston perhaps best ever. Tomollolo,tamou,Scott.

 

[Eelementary]

He's an incredibly underrated player IMO. He's played Origin. And tbh if he was called on to do so again (which is incredibly unlikely with the props NSW have) he'd not let anyone down.

Agreed.

I honestly don't get the hate for the guy.

I would like to see him develop a hit and spin, but his running and defence can't be faulted.

 

[Eelementary]

I sadly agree, Mau'u is the one bit of class in our pack and Edwards is a huge miss for me off the bench his a bloody handful to tackle.

Brown, Matagi, Moeroa are solid, how good are they really. They were bench players for there previous clubs (Moeroa excluded).

100%, Hooker and devastating middle forward are needed, I have faith in Gutho, honestly if Morgan can win a comp, why can't Gutherson after he settles into being a regular 6.

That all depends on what BA wants to do.

Imo, that statement somewhat trivialises the importance of good bench players; Dean Widders was a brilliant bench player, but not so great as a starter.

I think Brown is only coming off the bench at the moment because his up tempo style suits playing against tired defences more than fresh defences.

 

[Bazal]

Imo, that statement somewhat trivialises the importance of good bench players; Dean Widders was a brilliant bench players, but not so great as a starter.

I think Brown is only coming off the bench at the moment because his up tempo style suits playing against tired defences more than fresh defences.

After the last two weeks, I'd be swapping Brown and Matagi. Brown is the more rounded prop IMO, and Matagi only has one gear so he's not going to lose his effectiveness off the bench

 

[Avenger]

I am heartened that we even entertain the possibility of not getting Bird. It means we aren't committed to getting at any cost. We aren't interested in a bidding war.

Don't be so sure, Pou. I think he is torn because our offer is massive compared to Cronulla's.

Immediate implies someone who is unhappy or maybe feels they aren't getting fairly treated by their club...? Or maybe a youngster
Jackson Hastings springs to mind....Brodie Croft? I'd be shitty if I was as good as he is and stuck behind Ryley Jacks and a fullback/centre.

I'll allow Stags to answer who he thinks this may be. I reckon he might be on the money.

 

[Eelementary]

After the last two weeks, I'd be swapping Brown and Matagi. Brown is the more rounded prop IMO, and Matagi only has one gear so he's not going to lose his effectiveness off the bench

I'd be happy with that, tbh.

I'd even start with Vave; he impressed me against the Sharks.

But I think Brown starting would give us better balance.

Though it would likely leave Matagi and Vave on the bench (unless Vave gets dropped for Alvaro, which I don't mind, because I rate Alvaro).

 

[Bazal]

Don't be so sure, Pou. I think he is torn because our offer is massive compared to Cronulla's.



I'll allow Stags to answer who he thinks this may be. I reckon he might be on the money.

Tyrone Roberts? He's played hooker and fullback this season.....(BTW no need to answer, just quoting you to differentiate the discussion)

 

[Bazal]

I'd be happy with that, tbh.

I'd even start with Vave; he impressed me against the Sharks.

But I think Brown starting would give us better balance.

Though it would likely leave Matagi and Vave on the bench (unless Vave gets dropped for Alvaro, which I don't mind, because I rate Alvaro).

Right now I'd have Alvaro over Vave easily.

For a mediocre pack we sure have a lot of depth

 

[hindy111]

Club doesnt rate Dargan?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Imo, that statement somewhat trivialises the importance of good bench players; Dean Widders was a brilliant bench player, but not so great as a starter.

I think Brown is only coming off the bench at the moment because his up tempo style suits playing against tired defences more than fresh defences.

Likewise Edwards is one of our best attacking players and he only started ten games last year, three of them in the halves.

 

[hindy111]

Right now I'd have Alvaro over Vave easily.

For a mediocre pack we sure have a lot of depth

So does most teams. Why wenty cant win.

 

[Bazal]

Club doesnt rate Dargan?

More that he's not ready yet, I'd say.

And he's not. He's a very talented half but he needs to learn football IMO.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Club doesnt rate Dargan?

He is still eligible for NYC. They might rate him as a potential first grader of the future but not for 2018. Or they might think he's unlikely to ever be more than a backup. So they might want to keep him in the squad but not as a top 17 option. At least not next year. DCE made his NRL debut the year he turned 22.

 

[Eelementary]

Likewise Edwards is one of our best attacking players and he only started ten games last year, three of them in the halves.

Absolutely.

A good bench player is worth their weight in gold; the days where being relegated to the bench meant you weren't good enough to start are long gone.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Don't be so sure, Pou. I think he is torn because our offer is massive compared to Cronulla's.

But it's still what we think he's worth. If we offer more there comes a point where he isn't torn at all. I'm sure every single one of us here would play for Manly/Melbourne/Dogs if they offered $1M and the next best offer was $700k.

I'll allow Stags to answer who he thinks this may be. I reckon he might be on the money.

Come on Stagger!

 

[Bazal]

Absolutely.

A good bench player is worth their weight in gold; the days where being relegated to the bench meant you weren't good enough to start are long gone.

Smithy loved a good bench player. Solomona, Widders, PJ Marsh.....

 

[hindy111]

But it's still what we think he's worth. If we offer more there comes a point where he isn't torn at all. I'm sure every single one of us here would play for Manly/Melbourne/Dogs if they offered $1M and the next best offer was $700k.

Come on Stagger!

Not me. Id rather 700 and play for club i love.

 

[Avenger]

Tyrone Roberts? He's played hooker and fullback this season.....(BTW no need to answer, just quoting you to differentiate the discussion)

Much bigger name.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Much bigger name.

Widdop?