Rumours and Stuff

[Soren Lorenson]

I think he posts on here @Wally21 ??

 

[Delboy]

My point was that we are participating in a tough market and you listed every teams wish list after they complete their spine. Those players don’t grow on trees and don’t hold your breath I reckon.

Am I wrong ? We only snapped up the last few signings because those players found themselves with nobody to love them. It’s doubtful we will pay overs in a bidding war for anyone. Or, there is no evidence that the new coach will so far.

Think about this for a millisecond, Tigers unde a new CEO/Hof have recruited strongly, Richo can be a blowhard in the press but somehow gets things done. Moves players on and strikes in the market. The Dogs/Dolphins and others are far more decisive, that’s what is a problem , passive and reluctant to recruit hard. If it’s due to previous poor contractual decisions, think where that starts.

 

[Parrapat]

There appears to be an inordinate amount of angst in here this morning.

Yesterday was absolutely soul crushing on Sydney's roads from M2, M7 through to M4, Richmond Road and back to Church Street offramp up Woodville Road it was mind destroying pandemonium, people were crazy which eventually I succumbed to the madness making a wild rats run through the back streets of Granville fruitlessly attempting to outwit the blockades.

Anyway, I put it down to the new moon which begins today and the start of the next lunar cycle. We can take this moment to reflect on the season so far and what we want from the next 3 games, starting afresh with a calm introspective and heightened sensitivity till the lunar cycle is complete.

One win from our last three will see us one win ahead of Ciraldo's Bulldogs refresh in his first year and if they're the benchmark by which we judge a rebuild then we're more than on-track. A close loss tonight is okay so long as we play well and the Chooks just too good. I'm hoping we can beat Warriors as well as the Knights.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Outside of this blog, we seem to be far too passive as a club, seems the front office believe the team is passable and will challenge. For what I’m not sure.

The problem is that there aren’t enough quality players to go around, which increases their cost. The salary cap should spread the talent, and it does to an extent. I remember in the mid-90s the bottom teams didn’t have any Origin players at all, usually not even former Origin players, whereas these days every club does. But some clubs have advantages outside the cap that allow them to fit more talent under it. These clubs get more of the high demand players, but even the likes of Melbourne would have areas of their rosters they would like to improve. I’m sure Penrith would’ve preferred to keep Luai than bring in Talagi, for example. But the salary cap meant they had to make do with a rookie, just as we have to at many positions. You can’t solve all your problems with recruitment because the salary cap limits how much you can spend.

I’m sure you know all this stuff, but you seem to forget it every time you complain that the club thinks it has the best roster in the NRL.

 

[Parrapat]

I’m sure Penrith would’ve preferred to keep Luai than bring in Talagi, for example. But the salary cap meant they had to make do with a rookie, just as we have to at many positions. You can’t solve all your problems with recruitment because the salary cap limits how much you can spend.

Panthers had Isaiya Katoa earmarked to replace Luai but had to go for Talagi when Bennett stole Katoa from their juniors.

 

[RealdEel]

The problem is that there aren’t enough quality players to go around, which increases their cost. The salary cap should spread the talent, and it does to an extent. I remember in the mid-90s the bottom teams didn’t have any Origin players at all, usually not even former Origin players, whereas these days every club does. But some clubs have advantages outside the cap that allow them to fit more talent under it. These clubs get more of the high demand players, but even the likes of Melbourne would have areas of their rosters they would like to improve. I’m sure Penrith would’ve preferred to keep Luai than bring in Talagi, for example. But the salary cap meant they had to make do with a rookie, just as we have to at many positions. You can’t solve all your problems with recruitment because the salary cap limits how much you can spend.

I’m sure you know all this stuff, but you seem to forget it every time you complain that the club thinks it has the best roster in the NRL.

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and th grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

 

[Delboy]

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and th grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

There is no point to the post, must be due to a necessity to increase the number of posts attributed to him. Most are trying to find a way to take an opposite stance, never to see that someone else has a point.

 

[Twizzle]

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and the grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

what colour do you think it is ?

 

[Avenger]

I'm not justifying anyone's selection, it's the coach who picks the team and he knows better than both of us. But nearly every player has strengths and weaknesses, and there's nothing wrong with pointing them out. You're a troll if you think it's only acceptable to be negative on here.

Do you think you ever troll? Serious question.

 

[Parrapat]

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and th grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

Good question, especially when his post is also wrong in that Panthers had a succession plan to utilise their next up junior but were gazumped by an NRL interloper. Panthers have built a strong juniors programme as next man up because they can't compete with the likes of Scum and Rorters who clearly aren't bound by the salary cap constraints.

How can Rorters stockpile halves like Walker, Savala, Sandon Smith, Chad and now DCE while other clubs like us rely on Bulldogs rejects? How does the Scum also stockpile 1st grade halves who are walk up starters in our club like Wishart and Pezet?

 

[Delboy]

Do you think you ever troll? Serious question.

Notice, he defends anything and everything for some reason, how do other clubs sign elite players even when they are at the bottom end of the table. Oh yes, they pay overs etc, perhaps they haven’t extended middle of the road players on crazy money and years. Somehow we have to find a way to compete, not accept a standard that defies our size and support base. Sign good players in positions of need, effective and the examples remain Dogs, Tigers , and others, unfortunately we don’t.

 

[RealdEel]

There is no point to the post, must be due to a necessity to increase the number of posts attributed to him. Most are trying to find a way to take an opposite stance, never to see that someone else has a point.

I understand why people get annoyed with the club and why and how they make poor decisions and giving an alternative opinion on these forums to what the club is doing and not working. Proof as we haven't won a competition in 40 years.

But what is the point of his posts of explaining what the club is doing and being unsuccessful..

I am glad we have someone at the Club like Ryles who looks to know we need to have great culture from the bottom up.

You need to invest in your juniors giving them a pathway instead of buying journey players that aren't good enough for first grade.

Poor clubs like the Raiders are doing that an are now leading the competition..

Rich clubs like the Titans are throwing money around and have a bad culture and are in last...

But somehow we have to be content with what the club has dished up over the years...

 

[hineyrulz]

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and th grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Pou, don't upset his Pouciples they might get mad.

 

[hineyrulz]

what colour do you think it is ?

It's the opposite colour than what Pou thinks it is ffs!!

 

[RealdEel]

Good question, especially when his post is also wrong in that Panthers had a succession plan to utilise their next up junior but were gazumped by an NRL interloper. Panthers have built a strong juniors programme as next man up because they can't compete with the likes of Scum and Rorters who clearly aren't bound by the salary cap constraints.

How can Rorters stockpile halves like Walker, Savala, Sandon Smith, Chad and now DCE while other clubs like us rely on Bulldogs rejects? How does the Scum also stockpile 1st grade halves who are walk up starters in our club like Wishart and Pezet?

Penrith aren't a rich club either I can tell you that first hand either are the Raiders and they have learnt how to be successful as you explained.

Roosters even being a rich club and being able to buy whoever they want understand your juniors is how you build long term success and have junior programs everywhere.. and if you think they are paying full freight for their programs then you don't understand how to do business.

 

[RealdEel]

Welcome to the wonderful world of Pou, don't upset his Pouciples they might get mad.

Ah no what did I do..

 

[Delboy]

I understand why people get annoyed with the club and why and how they make poor decisions and giving an alternative opinion on these forums to what the club is doing and not working. Proof as we haven't won a competition in 40 years.

But what is the point of his posts of explaining what the club is doing and being unsuccessful..

I am glad we have someone at the Club like Ryles who looks to know we need to have great culture from the bottom up.

You need to invest in your juniors giving them a pathway instead of buying journey players that aren't good enough for first grade.

Poor clubs like the Raiders are doing that an are now leading the competition..

Rich clubs like the Titans are throwing money around and have a bad culture and are in last...

But somehow we have to be content with what the club has dished up over the years...

Raiders have a substantial property portfolio and cash producing investments than most, they have suffered from their location and took a different route in signing elite young players and have benefitted there. Titans offer a lifestyle destination, but have been as poor in recruitment as us, but just from a different angle.

If the Eels are happy with their progress, they will start to see support decline, you don’t do the same thing continually and expect a different result. The front office has been poor since B Smith was there, resurrected for a while under Gurr but has lapsed since.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

So he was comparing Papalii to Strange. That’s what I thought.

I was comparing defensive missed tackles between Strange and Papalii.....nothing else, not playing making, organising, running, passing, kicking, etc etc, etc, etc, etc .

Apologies for not being more specific, I should have said "I am not comparing Strange's total game performances with Papalii total game performances, as Strange is definitely the better player"

 

[King-Gutho94]

Can someone explain the point of this post?

It's like your trying to tell me the sky is blue and th grass is green.

Not trying to be rude but so far most of your posts are just explaining what most people already know.
They don't add much to the discussion.

If you hang around long enough you will get used to it on here.

 

[85 Baby]

There appears to be an inordinate amount of angst in here this morning.

@Tiger5150 you wanker