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Stagger eel

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I agree he had his best season and would cost under 300k. So he isnt really an issue in the squad. But I would say Will has far more upside if he can fix his hands. Russel I think has average pace, no real foot work or any power. He is safe I guess and tall.
Our problem is if you named every centre in comp we dont have one in the top 25 do we?

to be fair, we have 2 elite wingers at the club I'm not sure whether we need elite centres ( although it would help ) ...the premiers carried a bloke who was on a train and trial contract all year and he was the perfect fit for them.
 

hindy111

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And opportunity and game plan. An outside back kicking even for Smugs would be an option play and usually the byproduct of the main play breaking down. Historically they have also been built around high amount of possession in opposition 20m.

Yes exactly. Small details. If needed wing and centre should feel comfortable and have ability to roll the ball into the ingoals. Even if they only use it once every 3 or 4 games. It may end up the play that wins us the grandfinal.
 

hindy111

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to be fair, we have 2 elite wingers at the club I'm not sure whether we need elite centres ( although it would help ) ...the premiers carried a bloke who was on a train and trial contract all year and he was the perfect fit for them.

Agree our wing pairing is probably top 3 in comp. But as soon as we go wide we don't have a 2nd rower or centre who is able to break line concsistently or is an attacking threat that has the defense going backwards or fearfull. Actually im being harsh in Williams. He was excellent but it was for one season so probably has to back it up.
 

emjaycee

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Agree our wing pairing is probably top 3 in comp. But as soon as we go wide we don't have a 2nd rower or centre who is able to break line concsistently or is an attacking threat that has the defense going backwards or fearfull. Actually im being harsh in Williams. He was excellent but it was for one season so probably has to back it up.
Kautoga before his injury?
Not the finished product but improved every game.

#recencybias
 

Stagger eel

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Agree our wing pairing is probably top 3 in comp. But as soon as we go wide we don't have a 2nd rower or centre who is able to break line concsistently or is an attacking threat that has the defense going backwards or fearfull. Actually im being harsh in Williams. He was excellent but it was for one season so probably has to back it up.

I think Katauga is probably one of the best attacking backrowers in the game but needs to get to NRL level defence, Williams is handy but definitely not a long term solution.

should be an area that we need to look at with recruitment moving forward.
 

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No doubt this will whip us all into a frenzy


Leeds: Former Parramatta coach Brad Arthur says he’s a better coach now than the one who was sacked by the Eels last year, admitting it was time for both him and the club to go their separate ways.

This masthead caught up with Arthur at a cafe near his home in Leeds, where the Kangaroos are based ahead of the third Ashes Test, and the Leeds Rhinos coach revealed his ambition to one day return to the NRL.

A candid Arthur reflected on his 11-year tenure at the Eels, which included a grand final appearance in 2022, in fondness and holds no grudges against the club that gave him his first crack at top flight coaching.
“A lot of people said I looked relieved and happy, and I felt like I was at the time,” he said about his mid-season sacking.

“I was grateful for the opportunity they gave me. Eleven years, it was a great life and my family got to live a great life. There were negatives with it, but there were plenty of positives with it. I wouldn’t change any of it at all. Probably there’s some lessons there that I maybe knew or some things that I knew I needed to change or got wrong. But sometimes you don’t make those until you get sacked or terminated.
“I’ve looked at it from a perspective of ‘it is what it is, I’ve had a good life and enjoyed it, but what can I learn from it’? So if I got any opportunities again moving forward, is there anything that I could do differently? But I feel a lot of that just comes with time and experience. You don’t learn from anything unless you make mistakes. It’s just making sure you don’t make them over and over.”

Arthur has had an immediate impact since joining the Rhinos last year. When he took over, the team was languishing in ninth position. He led them to third this year and were only eliminated after a miracle last second try to St Helens in the finals series.

He applied for the Perth Bears job but missed out in favour of Mal Meninga. He’s since signed an extension with the Rhinos but feels he has a point to prove in the NRL after falling agonisingly short with the Eels against the Panthers in the ’22 decider.

“I’m really comfortable with my lifestyle I’m living here right now, I’m enjoying it,” he said.

“It’s a different challenge of coaching. The scrutiny is probably not as heavy as it was in Australia, but I’m very grateful to the Leeds Rhinos for believing in me and the players embracing me when I arrived. It’s a great club and it’s reignited my passion for coaching.

“If the timing was right and, and the job come available, I’d certainly like to try and get a few things that I got wrong, right. But I’m not desperate for a job, but I could certainly want to coach at the highest level of our sport and it’s obviously in the NRL. I think I can be better.

“I started out as a rookie coach in a big club and had to learn a lot on the run. It’s not just about going in and what you know about footy. There’s way more to it – dealing with people. I got plenty of it right and I got plenty of it wrong. And I think every coach will probably say the same. There’s some good lessons that I’ve taken out of it, that I would make sure I wouldn’t make the same mistakes.”

The Eels have undergone a major rebuild under new coach Jason Ryles, which included the departure of skipper Clint Gutherson and experienced prop Reagan Campbell-Gillard.
Arthur says he wants to see the club do well and recognised that his tenure needed to come to an end.
“Definitely. 100 per cent, I needed it,” Arthur said of his sacking.

“And I felt like it for a while. But I don’t quit anything and walk out on anything. But I’d been feeling it for 12 months that everyone just needed a change. I suppose they were the brave ones who made the change. As a coach and all coaches, we think we can fix everything, we can fix every player. You can fix every issue. And that’s the other thing I learnt, sometimes you can’t.”
Arthur also reflected with regret over the way he handled his life as a result of life in the limelight.
He said his family suffered as a result and he didn’t learn to prioritise, such was his intense focus on leading the Eels to glory. He’s since gained more perspective moving to the other side of the world and gaining an appreciation for how good his life has been.
“Maybe sometimes I hid from it, which again, I feel like that’s putting the job and me before the family,” Arthur said.
“I hardly went out to dinners. We had good strong friends at the start of our Parramatta journey then by the end of it, we hardly did anything or went anywhere. I used to take it very personally if we get beaten or if you played poorly.

“You wouldn’t want to show your face, and I think every coach goes through that. You just got to – not move on from it quicker – but just be comfortable that you’re doing the best you can. It’s a tough job. Elite sport is tough to win every week. Sometimes you might carry that body language into work, and then it rubs off on everyone else.”
 

85 Baby

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I agree he had his best season and would cost under 300k. So he isnt really an issue in the squad. But I would say Will has far more upside if he can fix his hands. Russel I think has average pace, no real foot work or any power. He is safe I guess and tall.
Our problem is if you named every centre in comp we dont have one in the top 25 do we?
Do you need players in top 25 at every position?
And even so arbitrarily ranking every single player would be riddled with constant fluctuations. Shibasaki went from reggies player to Origin debutant to most sought after centre to Shitasaki to premiership winner - realistically he’s probably grouped with a dozen other of good centres who are going to do less bad shit than others.
Whereas Staggs had a career year which probably pushed him out of the same group as Shibasaki into the more elite. My point is you’re probably correct but it isn’t like they are the 26th/27th best or lower, they just in a group of another dozen or so similar players including the likes of GF players Nick Meaney and Jack Howarth and included (and not impossibly could include next year) premiership winner Shibasaki.
As long as we are paying them commensurate to the group they’re in (or lower) then they’re not individually a problem.


Yes exactly. Small details. If needed wing and centre should feel comfortable and have ability to roll the ball into the ingoals. Even if they only use it once every 3 or 4 games. It may end up the play that wins us the grandfinal.
Deary deary deary me….

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So much kicking…
 

85 Baby

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Comparatively here’s who we assume will be least kicking back we have Penisini
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Down year last season but 2 prior to that are better than all bar Mclean’s debut year
 

85 Baby

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Only Tago cracked the 100m kicking in a season and needed 25+ games to do so. While in 2024 Simonsson cracked the 100 in 10 games.
Small details and all.
@hindy111 do you want me to show Lomax & JAC’s kicking stats?
 
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