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Gronk

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There are 2 blokes that can save the tigers right now and they now have the funds to do it...Cronk and Hayne!

If they're smart enough they'll make it happen

I Hayne prepared to be a team player, do what Ivan says and be Cronk's trusty sidekick instead of the superhero ?

I'd like to see them at the WTigers TBH.

Gotta feeling that Cooper might retire rather than go to Newcastle or Tigers TBH.
 

Stagger eel

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Oh I'm expecting Pudfin to sit on his cosy patch for another 12 months for the dosh he's on and I'm expecting Cooper Rushton to retire but it would be a nice fairytale acquisition for a club that's just lost their captain and had their spine ripped apart ...
Maybe I'm going soft in my old age but I really feel for the merkins and their fans..
 

Snoochies

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I Hayne prepared to be a team player, do what Ivan says and be Cronk's trusty sidekick instead of the superhero ?

I'd like to see them at the WTigers TBH.

Gotta feeling that Cooper might retire rather than go to Newcastle or Tigers TBH.

I doubt it, it's Haynes house remember.
 

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Hasn't Semi already signed a contract with Toulon, for 2017/18 and with an option (in Semi's favour) fro 2018/19?

yes he has signed but not sure he wants to go

"I'm committed to playing the 2017 season with the Eels," he said. "My contract is for the 2017 season and I intend on honouring this contract.

"All things being equal I would love to remain an Eel beyond 2017. I love the fans, I love my teammates and coach."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...atta-eels-in-2017-report-20161204-gt3iom.html
 

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If they band together they get cheaper subscriptions to the Australian?
NRL players harden stance on revenue share

Chief executive Ian Prendergast is confident the RLPA is on the right track in its bid for a new pay deal. Picture: Dylan Robinson
  • The Australian
  • 12:00AM April 20, 2017
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The gulf between the NRL and the players union shows few signs of closing after Rugby League Players Association boss Ian Prendergast returned from a meeting with some of the most powerful player associations in the world emboldened in his organisation’s pursuit of a fixed share of revenue.

Prendergast recently attended the world players union conference in Paris, where he rubbed shoulders and exchanged ideas with his counterparts from powerful organisations such as the National Hockey League and the National Football League.

In a move that has the potential to reinforce the gaping chasm between the RLPA and the NRL, Prendergast walked away from the conference confident that they were on the right track as they pursued a fixed percentage of the game’s overall revenue as part of a future pay deal for players.

The parties resumed talks this week and the union is due to table a comprehensive offer to the NRL within the next fortnight, including a position on the salary cap. That figure will be linked to a fixed percentage of the game’s total revenue — forecast to be upwards of $590 million for next season.

“For a lot of sports overseas, in terms of salary cap the only way they would agree to it is if it is properly linked to a guaranteed share of revenue so it is properly benchmarked,” Prendergast said. “It has given me a lot of context, a lot of perspective and a lot of confidence going into this next phase because I have been able to test what we are proposing with leaders across the world in relation to athletes and arrangements they have in place. It satisfied me that what we are proposing is more than reasonable.”

The RLPA response to the NRL’s initial proposal is expected to be wide-ranging and comprehensive. Aside from the salary cap, the document is likely to cover some of the more contentious issues that are currently on the table including third-party agreements and integrity issues.

The RLPA is expected to pursue a loosening of the rules around TPAs as well as greater consultation over scheduling and key contractual arrangements such as drug testing.

The union has also been hesitant to agree to a push by the NRL to gain greater access to players’ personal financial records such as bank accounts and tax returns. The tipping point is likely to remain the salary cap given the NRL’s initial offer was far below what the players union had hoped. The NRL’s initial offer was a base salary cap of $8.3m with a further $140,000 allowance for cars and $400,000 for long-serving players — putting the total cap at $8.84m.

The RLPA counter-offer is expected to be sizeably more, a move that is likely to engender support from a host of clubs who were banking on having more money to spend next season.

It is understood the clubs will have the ultimate say with at least 75 per cent of them required to support the final collective bargaining agreement before it is finally ratified.

That puts the RLPA in a position of power as it attempts to strike a deal that is more palatable to the players. The parties have agreed to have a deal in place by June 30, but they have a mountain of work to do given the current impasse over most of the major issues.

Prendergast also revealed the RLPA had been in contact with Wests Tigers five-eighth Mitchell Moses after he was denied a release by the club to join Parramatta with immediate effect.

Moses has agreed to join the Eels next season and formally requested a release from Tigers coach Ivan Cleary on Tuesday. The club opted to stand their ground rather than make a move that would have been viewed in some quarters as giving up on their season.

“We have been there in terms of support and making sure that he continues to act professionally given it is a difficult situation,” Prendergast said.

“Whist he might become frustrated — and I am not saying he is at the moment — he has responsibilities under his contract. It is a tough situation. That was the basis of the conversation we have had with him.

“We just thought it was appropriate to reach out and support the player from that point of view.”

Moses was named in the Tigers side to take on Canterbury this Sunday, a game that has taken on added intrigue given the speculation that Aaron Woods is about to join the Bulldogs next season.
 

Chipmunk

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You're f**ken kidding merkin. Those two together would be $1.2M+. How far under the cap do you reckon we are?

We also need to sign/re-sign another half dozen players into the top 25.

The cap is also going up considerably though, but apparently you will have to pay 5 more plays for a Top 30.
 

Gronk

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Gee IIRC Jason Taylor got the boot because of his failure to sure up the big 4.

Now Ivan looks like he'll lock in 1 out of 4. I hope he has a Foran or Cronk up his sleeve.

BTW on 2SM yesterday they worked a rumour that the Warriors told Shaun Johnson that their priority was to retain Foran over him.
 
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yes he has signed but not sure he wants to go

"I'm committed to playing the 2017 season with the Eels," he said. "My contract is for the 2017 season and I intend on honouring this contract.

"All things being equal I would love to remain an Eel beyond 2017. I love the fans, I love my teammates and coach."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...atta-eels-in-2017-report-20161204-gt3iom.html

That quote is from December 2016, before he reached an agreement with Toulon. I think he has subsquently said he'd like to come back, but I've seen nothing that suggests he wants to renege on his deal with Toulon.
 

Gronk

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Of course we don't know the terms of Semi's french contract. I note that plenty of NRL players have cut short their ESL contracts by either triggering a "home sick" clause or a "I have an offer to play NRL" clause.

Seggayaro an exception of late.
 
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Oh I'm expecting Pudfin to sit on his cosy patch for another 12 months for the dosh he's on and I'm expecting Cooper Rushton to retire but it would be a nice fairytale acquisition for a club that's just lost their captain and had their spine ripped apart ...
Maybe I'm going soft in my old age but I really feel for the merkins and their fans..
Tigers fans didn't show us any compassion last year when we lost 12pts, stuff them, Parra v the world!
 

RazorRam0n

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speaking of seggy, i reckon that is one way we can eventually sign moses.... seggy paid out his transfer fee.

in the negotiation with tigers, eventually they may just put a price on releasing mitch and given we can "frontload" moses's new contract because of the available cap space, it might make sense for him to just pay it out his pocket
 

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speaking of seggy, i reckon that is one way we can eventually sign moses.... seggy paid out his transfer fee.

in the negotiation with tigers, eventually they may just put a price on releasing mitch and given we can "frontload" moses's new contract because of the available cap space, it might make sense for him to just pay it out his pocket

Not sure that you can apply a transfer fee as a credit to your to your cap merkin.

The Wtigers would have to be pretty desperate to need say $150-200k from what we would pay them if not applied to the cap.

If I was Ivan I would not release Moses unless the trade was in his favour as a coach.
 

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Oh I'm expecting Pudfin to sit on his cosy patch for another 12 months for the dosh he's on and I'm expecting Cooper Rushton to retire but it would be a nice fairytale acquisition for a club that's just lost their captain and had their spine ripped apart ...
Maybe I'm going soft in my old age but I really feel for the merkins and their fans..

I feel for Jason Taylor. They rallied behind him losing job.
I reckon the clubs better to eff the lot off. Fix the board and start fresh. The way they played it out is gut wrenching and stinks. The big 4 got too their heads.
 

RazorRam0n

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speaking of seggy, i reckon that is one way we can eventually sign moses.... seggy paid out his transfer fee.

in the negotiation with tigers, eventually they may just put a price on releasing mitch and given we can "frontload" moses's new contract because of the available cap space, it might make sense for him to just pay it out his pocket
Not sure that you can apply a transfer fee as a credit to your to your cap merkin.

The Wtigers would have to be pretty desperate to need say $150-200k from what we would pay them if not applied to the cap.

If I was Ivan I would not release Moses unless the trade was in his favour as a coach.

transfer fees are exempt regardless. it would come down to how badly moses wanted to go like seggy

the tigpies are commercially driven right now, they have no choice but to be.
 

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On the revenue sharing:

What if players were to get 49% of revenue? They make the product what it is don't they?
So if it is $590mill, they should get something like $290 mill to be allocated towards player salaries. That would put the amount allocated to players at something like $18million per club.

Of course I don't know what the yearly administration/ promotion costs of the game are? But I would imagine giving each club $18million and setting the 30 man squad cap at a big number would be a good thing for the game overall.

Perhaps the NRL could stipulate certain benchmarks required to receive full amounts of funding? Perhaps they might like to war chest a couple of extra portions in order to have money to expand the game in the future?

I really feel like $300million is enough to administer the game though...
 

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