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[whall15]

I don't think they should receive any punishment, I didn't think Norman should've received a punishment either. I don't think it's the role of an employer to impose moral standards on its employees.

 

[Djay]

I just fail to see how what Bromwich and Proctor have done is 6 weeks less as significant as to what Norman did.

They were caught on camera, they were seen doing it, they were seen buying it yet 2 weeks? They have done wrong and brought the game into disrepute. Why not go do it again, you'll only miss 2 weeks, Papalii also? 1 week for drink driving?

If the game is fighting this massive war on drugs and its now seen as a major problem within Rugby League (you would have to be naive to think that there isn't a problem) then why oh why have they come down so soft?

How is what Norman did last year so much worse? I am sorry but I have lost all faith in Greenberg (not that I had much left) I just cannot help but feel if these 2 players played for Parramatta the punishment would be much different, call me spiteful and sour but different rules apply to different clubs.

Bromwich and Proctor are supposed leaders, yet Bromwich will be back in 2 weeks? What a farce.

 

[Bazal]

I don't think they should receive any punishment, I didn't think Norman should've received a punishment either. I don't think it's the role of an employer to impose moral standards on its employees.

I sort of agree but the players do have things written into their contracts because their employment takes place in such a prominent way.

Personally I couldn't give a f**k if the players are all on blow. But the NRL has a right to control its own image and part of that is player behaviour.

 

[Bazal]

I just fail to see how what Bromwich and Proctor have done is 6 weeks less as significant as to what Norman did.

They were caught on camera, they were seen doing it, they were seen buying it yet 2 weeks? They have done wrong and brought the game into disrepute. Why not go do it again, you'll only miss 2 weeks, Papalii also? 1 week for drink driving?

If the game is fighting this massive war on drugs and its now seen as a major problem within Rugby League (you would have to be naive to think that there isn't a problem) then why oh why have they come down so soft?

How is what Norman did last year so much worse? I am sorry but I have lost all faith in Greenberg (not that I had much left) I just cannot help but feel if these 2 players played for Parramatta the punishment would be much different, call me spiteful and sour but different rules apply to different clubs.

Bromwich and Proctor are supposed leaders, yet Bromwich will be back in 2 weeks? What a farce.

Firstly, I would suggest that "doing it again" will result in a much larger sanction.

Secondly, Norman was convicted of a drug offence. He distributed a video of a sex act involving drug usage. He consorted with known criminals.

 

[Happy MEel]

Firstly, I would suggest that "doing it again" will result in a much larger sanction.

Secondly, Norman was convicted of a drug offence. He distributed a video of a sex act involving drug usage. He consorted with known criminals.

For those players, yes. But if you're another NRL player who hasn't been caught yet, what disincentive is there to think twice before shoving some white powder up your nose?

In fact, for an almost guaranteed two week suspension now, I think more players will be willing to throw the dice because it's almost a non-event if they get caught, whereas previously they may have thought that the NRL would have come down much harder on them.

 

[Djay]

Firstly, I would suggest that "doing it again" will result in a much larger sanction.

Secondly, Norman was convicted of a drug offence. He distributed a video of a sex act involving drug usage. He consorted with known criminals.

When had Norman "done it again"?

So Proctor and Bromwich got they're coke from an angel on the side of a street? It was on CCTV apparently, so did they not get it off some what of a criminal? I am not saying what Norman did was right, but I am sorry this was a huge chance to put down a marker for this fight on drugs, but instead lets slap them on the wrist and be back in a fortnight. I fail to see 6 weeks difference in a penalty, Norman or Bromwich and Proctor all did the same thing, brought the game into disrepute, hence should all cop the same punishment.

Oh and what did Pearce do illegal? Get caught doing dumb shit with a dog? Same punishment as Norman? Come on.

You cannot tell me that different rules do not apply to different clubs.

 

[strider]

Yes but you are comparing a convicted felon to an alleged one time drug user.....

He had the conviction overturned on appeal

 

[strider]

Add to that previous offences. Or is that irrelevant because it goes against your point?

Honestly, your point of view is that because they made mistakes with sanctions last year, they should continue to make those mistakes. So realistically the likelihood you just want to whinge about it regardless, IMO.

And that's the major issue. No matter what sanctions were given, there would be mass whining about how it was wrong.

What previous offences did Pearce have?

He flicked a chick on the ass in a nightclub (yes i am well aware this could be called assult) - she complained to the bouncers who reported it to the cops ... he was never charged or convicted ..... was there something else?

 

[Bazal]

When had Norman "done it again"?

So Proctor and Bromwich got they're coke from an angel on the side of a street? It was on CCTV apparently, so did they not get it off some what of a criminal? I am not saying what Norman did was right, but I am sorry this was a huge chance to put down a marker for this fight on drugs, but instead lets slap them on the wrist and be back in a fortnight. I fail to see 6 weeks difference in a penalty, Norman or Bromwich and Proctor all did the same thing, brought the game into disrepute, hence should all cop the same punishment.

Oh and what did Pearce do illegal? Get caught doing dumb shit with a dog? Same punishment as Norman? Come on.

You cannot tell me that different rules do not apply to different clubs.

Pearce sexually harassed/assaulted a woman ffs. Twice.

Norman was suspended for FOUR OFFENCES. What part of that did you miss?

NRL Head of Integrity, Nick Weeks said the penalty relates to the following matters involving Norman:
• His conviction for drug possession at The Star casino
• A police warning for consorting with known criminals at the casino
• Filming incidents involving apparent drug use and sexual activity
• Distributing video of those incidents to other NRL players

http://www.nrl.com/nrl-suspends-corey-norman/tabid/10874/newsid/99422/default.aspx

 

[miatch]

I don't think they should receive any punishment, I didn't think Norman should've received a punishment either. I don't think it's the role of an employer to impose moral standards on its employees.

It's not a moral code. It's a legal code.

 

[The EELiminator]

the nrl only has themselves to blame mandatory sentencing should have been imposed after the norman incident (really it should have happened before)

what does the integrity unit do? i (naively) thought this was their job to investigate incidents and hand down punishments so they are consistent across the nrl rather than handled piecemeal by the clubs who have a vested interest in their best players being on the park

 

[Bazal]

the nrl only has themselves to blame mandatory sentencing should have been imposed after norman (really it should have happened before)

what does the integrity unit do? i (naively) thought this was their job to investigate incidents and hand down punishments so they are consistent across the nrl rather than handled piecemeal by the clubs who have a vested interest in their best players being on the park

Everyone seems so willing to simply disregard the fact that Norman was CONVICTED....but what about the three other offences?? We disregarding them too because we just want to be poor, hard done by Eels fans?

 

[Djay]

Pearce sexually harassed/assaulted a woman ffs. Twice.

Norman was suspended for FOUR OFFENCES. What part of that did you miss?



http://www.nrl.com/nrl-suspends-corey-norman/tabid/10874/newsid/99422/default.aspx

Whats your point?

They all brought the game into disrepute, criminal offences or not.

Sorry but Proctor and Bromwich should have gotten the same.

Norman has learnt his lesson whether he was treated fairly or not, so has Pearce.

Has Proctor or Bromwich? Wow there not gonna play the World Cup, who gives a shit about it anyway Australia have already won it.

If I was either of them I would go do it again, 2 weeks ain't so bad after all. Just like Papalii, I would go to town if I was him also, what have they learnt from what they have done? Nothing FFS, there've been slapped on the wrist.

SKD, I shudder to think what he will get, 2 weeks aswell? Was he not in hot water last year?

 

[strider]

IMO ...

Norman probably got about 3 weeks too much.
Pearce probably got about 4 or 5 weeks too much
Bromwich probably got about 2 or 3 weeks too little
I dont think proctor has had a suspension given, so no comment - assume titans will give him same as bromwich, why wouldnt they?

 

[Bazal]

Whats your point?

They all brought the game into disrepute, criminal offences or not.

Sorry but Proctor and Bromwich should have gotten the same.

Norman has learnt his lesson whether he was treated fairly or not, so has Pearce.

Has Proctor or Bromwich? Wow there not gonna play the World Cup, who gives a shit about it anyway Australia have already won it.

If I was either of them I would go do it again, 2 weeks ain't so bad after all. Just like Papalii, I would go to town if I was him also, what have they learnt from what they have done? Nothing FFS, there've been slapped on the wrist.

SKD, I shudder to think what he will get, 2 weeks aswell? Was he not in hot water last year?

My point is that who's to say Norman didn't get two weeks for each offence, for example? How do you know what portion of his suspension was for the possession charge? And how is his four offences, in the eyes of the NRL, comparable to one offence?

You all want to whine about how unfair it is, but the simple fact is that Norman was suspended for several incidents, and was officially charged and convicted. Both of those things count for more time out, plain and simple.

 

[Bazal]

IMO ...

Norman probably got about 3 weeks too much.
Pearce probably got about 4 or 5 weeks too much
Bromwich probably got about 2 or 3 weeks too little
I dont think proctor has had a suspension given, so no comment - assume titans will give him same as bromwich, why wouldnt they?

Personally I would say Norman and Pearce deserved about 6 weeks. 2 weeks for Bromwich is about right, up to 4 wouldn't have been over the top but 2 is fine.

 

[The EELiminator]

Everyone seems so willing to simply disregard the fact that Norman was CONVICTED....but what about the three other offences?? We disregarding them too because we just want to be poor, hard done by Eels fans?

i'm not saying norman was hard done by i'm saying that the nrl should have put in place a minimum punishment for different offenses across the board instead of on a case by case basis by the clubs

 

[IFR33K]

When had Norman "done it again"?

So Proctor and Bromwich got they're coke from an angel on the side of a street? It was on CCTV apparently, so did they not get it off some what of a criminal? I am not saying what Norman did was right, but I am sorry this was a huge chance to put down a marker for this fight on drugs, but instead lets slap them on the wrist and be back in a fortnight. I fail to see 6 weeks difference in a penalty, Norman or Bromwich and Proctor all did the same thing, brought the game into disrepute, hence should all cop the same punishment.

Oh and what did Pearce do illegal? Get caught doing dumb shit with a dog? Same punishment as Norman? Come on.

You cannot tell me that different rules do not apply to different clubs.

Greenberg strikes again.

He makes the rules up as he goes.

The sooner he fcks off the better. Both smith and gallop were far superior to him.

 

[Gazzamatta]

And Semi was banned as an Australian International simply because someone made an unsubstantiated allegation towards him.
Yep. One hell of a fair system we have here ladies and gents.

 

[Bazal]

i'm not saying norman was hard done by i'm saying that the nrl should have put in place a minimum punishment for different offenses across the board instead of on a case by case basis by the clubs

In that case I agree. But as I said in the ASADA thread it would also need to have some kind of allowance for impact, if it is an issue of bringing the game into disrepute.