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Djay

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My point is that who's to say Norman didn't get two weeks for each offence, for example? How do you know what portion of his suspension was for the possession charge? And how is his four offences, in the eyes of the NRL, comparable to one offence?

You all want to whine about how unfair it is, but the simple fact is that Norman was suspended for several incidents, and was officially charged and convicted. Both of those things count for more time out, plain and simple.

Answer me this, after missing out on winning the Dally M, after missing 8 of the toughest weeks his team mates had to endure ever in their careers, would he risk doing what he did again? No.

Would Pearce? No.

Would Proctor or Bromwich do it again? I would FFS, give myself a good 2 week break.

They have learnt nothing from this and have gotten away with it scot free, plain and simple.

Criminal charges or not, the NRL is not the court of Law, they are NRL players representing the game first and foremost and what they did was just as bad as what Norman and Pearce. It is all illegal, plain and simple.
 

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Everyone seems so willing to simply disregard the fact that Norman was CONVICTED....but what about the three other offences?? We disregarding them too because we just want to be poor, hard done by Eels fans?
No, not at all ... people are just amazed at the inconsistency .... we accepted norman f**ked up and got penalised last year ... but things are going quite different now

Did the nrl suspend segyaro and paulo for having dinner with criminals? No
Seyaro was in the video too .... no suspension ... perhaps the panthers dropping and releasing him was deemed sufficient?
 
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In that case I agree. But as I said in the ASADA thread it would also need to have some kind of allowance for impact, if it is an issue of bringing the game into disrepute.

for sure there should be flexibility to increase the punishment if necessary
 

Djay

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And Semi was banned as an Australian International simply because someone made an unsubstantiated allegation towards him.
Yep. One hell of a fair system we have here ladies and gents.
Don't even get me started on that.

Poor blokes name was dragged through the mud, got abused on national TV by a women who has now allegedly committed adultery, wanted to flee the country yet he gets no sorry.

The NRL is a joke and this has pissed me off big time.
 

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Answer me this, after missing out on winning the Dally M, after missing 8 of the toughest weeks his team mates had to endure ever in their careers, would he risk doing what he did again? No.

Would Pearce? No.

Would Proctor or Bromwich do it again? I would FFS, give myself a good 2 week break.

They have learnt nothing from this and have gotten away with it scot free, plain and simple.

Criminal charges or not, the NRL is not the court of Law, they are NRL players representing the game first and foremost and what they did was just as bad as what Norman and Pearce. It is all illegal, plain and simple.

If you seriously think they will get two weeks for a second offence then you've got rocks in your head. Bromwich has lost the captaincy of his nation ffs....it's more than a two week ban.

They also only did one of the four things Norman did. You are aware that distributing a sex tape without consent is also illegal? I'm not saying Corey did or didn't have consent, just that we have no idea either way....he may well have committed two crimes. But yeah, it's all exactly the same....
 

Bazal

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No, not at all ... people are just amazed at the inconsistency .... we accepted norman f**ked up and got penalised last year ... but things are going quite different now

Did the nrl suspend segyaro and paulo for having dinner with criminals? No
Seyaro was in the video too .... no suspension ... perhaps the panthers dropping and releasing him was deemed sufficient?

I haven't seen the video so I can't comment on Segs' role tbh. Norman distributed it, however. Which may well have been a criminal act.

I just cannot agree that doing blow once is the same as what Corey did.
 

Happy MEel

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My point is that who's to say Norman didn't get two weeks for each offence, for example? How do you know what portion of his suspension was for the possession charge? And how is his four offences, in the eyes of the NRL, comparable to one offence?

You all want to whine about how unfair it is, but the simple fact is that Norman was suspended for several incidents, and was officially charged and convicted. Both of those things count for more time out, plain and simple.
Conviction overturned so it's a charge of drug possession Vs video footage of consuming. I'd say that deserves a similar sanction.

The consorting was a warning and the evidence indicates the NRL don't give suspensions for these as Fafita, Segy and Jnr Paulo also received warnings last year without NRL punishment.

Taking a video of a sex act and someone else taking drugs is not illegal and quite frankly, none of the NRL's business.

Distributing said video to friends probably deserves some (but minimal) punishment.
 
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Answer me this, after missing out on winning the Dally M, after missing 8 of the toughest weeks his team mates had to endure ever in their careers, would he risk doing what he did again? No.

Would Pearce? No.

Would Proctor or Bromwich do it again? I would FFS, give myself a good 2 week break.

They have learnt nothing from this and have gotten away with it scot free, plain and simple.

this is where those clubs are making a rod for their own back in the future
brad knows if you come down on the player like a ton of bricks the first time you don't need to do it again
 

Djay

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What about Foran allegedly consorting with a known match fixer, brothel owner etc.

What about Foran allegedly being caught up in match fixing?

Oh yea give him a 2 week suspension.

What about the way the low life left us high and dry and was allowed back in the NRL within 2 weeks playing for a different club.

Poor Kieran was struggling better let him play the game he loves again before he commits.
 

Bazal

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Conviction overturned so it's a charge of drug possession Vs video footage of consuming. I'd say that deserves a similar sanction.

The consorting was a warning and the evidence indicates the NRL don't give suspensions for these as Fafita, Segy and Jnr Paulo also received warnings last year without NRL punishment.

Taking a video of a sex act and someone else taking drugs is not illegal and quite frankly, none of the NRL's business.

Distributing said video to friends probably deserves some (but minimal) punishment.

He was found guilty. He appealed to have the conviction removed from his record. It doesn't change the guilty verdict, and what do you want? The NRL ban was well before that anyway, what can they do?
 

Obscene Assassin

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I personally thought Corey should have been awarded a bravery medal whilst Proctor, Bromwich, and SKD (who no one seems to be talking about) should all be banned for life; unless they sign with the Eels in which case they all have to sign for minimum wage.
 

Djay

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If you seriously think they will get two weeks for a second offence then you've got rocks in your head. Bromwich has lost the captaincy of his nation ffs....it's more than a two week ban.

They also only did one of the four things Norman did. You are aware that distributing a sex tape without consent is also illegal? I'm not saying Corey did or didn't have consent, just that we have no idea either way....he may well have committed two crimes. But yeah, it's all exactly the same....
Honestly who gives a crap about international football, it's dead. They'll just go give it to another moron like Foran now.

Ahhhh I have my doubts over it, the NRL need Melbourne Storm flying high, I doubt that he would get 8 weeks if caught again.

I am sorry, I refuse to believe it and I have every right not to, look at the inconsistencies.
 

Bazal

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Honestly who gives a crap about international football, it's dead. They'll just go give it to another moron like Foran now.

Ahhhh I have my doubts over it, the NRL need Melbourne Storm flying high, I doubt that he would get 8 weeks if caught again.

I am sorry, I refuse to believe it and I have every right not to, look at the inconsistencies.

At the end of the day, you're only pissed because it was an Eels player getting 8 weeks. Look at the evidence. Norman did a hell of a lot more to bring the game into disrepute, thus, the longer suspension. Was it too long? Probably a couple of weeks. But it's not a barometer for this incident because he did several really stupid things, not just one. Simple.
 

Djay

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At the end of the day, you're only pissed because it was an Eels player getting 8 weeks. Look at the evidence. Norman did a hell of a lot more to bring the game into disrepute, thus, the longer suspension. Was it too long? Probably a couple of weeks. But it's not a barometer for this incident because he did several really stupid things, not just one. Simple.
Of course I am.

But people don't read the specifics, only the ones who care. And at the end of the day, it's all negative media, plain and simple there is no sugar coating it.
 

strider

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I haven't seen the video so I can't comment on Segs' role tbh. Norman distributed it, however. Which may well have been a criminal act.

I just cannot agree that doing blow once is the same as what Corey did.
There was nothing criminal about the video ... you are just making shit up now .... the only criminality involved with the video was someone else trying to extort money from him

The 4 things you are referring to are all nothing to the nrl in other cases ... they were just given by the integrity unit as a means to justify the end
 

Bazal

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There was nothing criminal about the video ... you are just making shit up now .... the only criminality involved with the video was someone else trying to extort money from him

The 4 things you are referring to are all nothing to the nrl in other cases ... they were just given by the integrity unit as a means to justify the end

Lol. I'm not making up shit, mate.

You are aware that distributing a sex tape without consent is a criminal act, right? As I said, none of us know whether he had consent or not (hence "may have been a criminal act") but at best it's a pretty rubbish look that brings the game into disrepute and at worst it's a potential crime whether you like it or not.
 

strider

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Yes. I think so. I don't believe a line of coke is a massive issue
You think all the mummies would be happy to have their league playing kids grow up to be doing lines with their footy mates?

I think at the end of the day it all (drunken stupidity, drugs, hanging with criminals) figures out to be bring the game into disrepute about the same
 

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