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RazorRam0n

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So, James Graham is a lock?

the dogs are the only club who's strategy WAS to have their props ballplay, they did it out of necessity with limited creative halves, it has been heavily criticised and they have since played more direct. it's no coincidence graham is since getting a heap more HIAs
 

T.S Quint

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Ah, so you're a prop unless your coach says you're not. Then you can be a lock but play the same way as a prop.
 

T.S Quint

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If they are playing halfback then they can be called a halfback.
Like our great halfback Corey Pearson.

You came up with the idea that locks are different to props because they exhibit certain skills, like footwork and passing. I gave up Graham as an example of a prop who has these skills in spades. Fifita is another. You could put them into jersey number 8, 10 or 13 and they will still play the same way. They are all just forwards who play in the middle.
 

Bazal

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Didn't Auva'a do the same? Should be jailed imo and when come out can resume playing.
Now Meehan, was a standover man for criminals and supposedly has learnt his lesson. Imo not as bad as those who hit their misses/gf's so what is the holdup re NRL?
Lodge supposed to be allowed to play NRL next year and he was amongst the worse of the lot so what gives there, other than will play for Broncos. They aren't one of the favoured teams are they? (tongue in cheek).

Tetevano was worse than Auva'a, but as I said earlier in a post I CBF finding I'm torn about supporting Auva'a as well.

But Tetevano is a genuine thug. Lodge is a nutcase too...IMO neither should be allowed to play. Nor should Packer.
 

RazorRam0n

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why stop there...back at taumololo as an example, if he was wearing 8 he'd have more hitups and even more running meters. differentiating his role enables him to play more minutes 55 instead of 40 and creating more space for outside backs on later rucks. that's what brown does, thats what merrin does....

there is a difference
 

Poupou Escobar

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why stop there...back at taumololo as an example, if he was wearing 8 he'd have more hitups and even more running meters. differentiating his role enables him to play more minutes 55 instead of 40 and creating more space for outside backs on later rucks. that's what brown does, thats what merrin does....

there is a difference
So if they play 55 minutes they're a lock rather than a prop?

I agree there are different types of middle forwards but there's more than two types, and not everyone wearing 8 or 10 plays the same way. Some of them play no different to blokes wearing 13.
 

RazorRam0n

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So if they play 55 minutes they're a lock rather than a prop?

not necessarily but if playing as a ballplaying option before the line as opposed to being instructed to bend the line enables a player to play more minutes than what they would normally then use they would suit a lock position more than prop
 

Poupou Escobar

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not necessarily but if playing as a ballplaying option before the line as opposed to being instructed to bend the line enables a player to play more minutes than what they would normally then use they would suit a lock position more than prop
And what if you have two guys doing this?
 

oldmancraigy

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So if they play 55 minutes they're a lock rather than a prop?

I agree there are different types of middle forwards but there's more than two types, and not everyone wearing 8 or 10 plays the same way. Some of them play no different to blokes wearing 13.

Stop being difficult!!

Generally speaking the props are there to do the early set hitups and shoulder the meterage responsibility.
Locks defend and run later in the set and tend to play longer minutes.

Calling them middle forwards might be too confusing. Sometimes they tackle or run not directly in the middle. Should call then 8s 10s and 13s. Or any blokes who play the way the coach has asked then and may have different numbers on their backs.
 

Poupou Escobar

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then you have an abnormal game plan like the dogs, which is being thrown out the window right now as fast as chris anderson's one marker tactic
Plenty of clubs do it, probably all of them. Getting a middle forward into first receiver allows the halves to split, with the one on the open side able to stand wider. And it doesn't seem to matter which middle forward does it. In our team Mannah, Matagi, Brown and Scott have all played this role, often in the same game. It's not a specialist position (like Joe Paulo's 'middle half') - it's just a matter of getting whoever's available to get in and make the extra man on the open side. It doesn't take any special skill to catch and pass.
 
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