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El Diablo

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"I knew coming back it would take a bit of time for my knee getting used to playing without the ligament there. On the weekend I got a bit of confidence. I thought it was my best game since I've been back."

Wait, what?
http://www.nrl.com/french-adapts-to-life-without-his-pcl/tabid/10874/newsid/108999/default.aspx

French adapts to life without his PCL
Sun 18 Jun, 2017, 6:00am
By Chris Kennedy, National Correspondent‌‌, ‌‌‌NRL.com
@CKennedy80

While a ruptured PCL did not put talented Eels fullback Bevan French on the sidelines for too long, the fleet-footed Tingha product is still in the process of adapting to football with no posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.

When French twisted his left knee at training back in Round 6, there were initial fears of a season-ending anterior cruciate ligament injury.

However French ended up missing just five games, which was a blessing for coach Brad Arthur given the injury curse that saw stars Corey Norman and Michael Jennings headlining a lengthy injury list.

Unlike an ACL, PCLs aren't necessary for the knee to function but French said it did take some getting used to the change in stability, a process he is still adjusting to.

"It has been a bit hard," French confessed at an Eels media session ahead of a Round 15 clash with the Dragons.

"I knew coming back it would take a bit of time for my knee getting used to playing without the ligament there."

Despite the result against the Cowboys in Darwin last week, French said he got some confidence out of the game personally.

"I thought it was my best game since I've been back," he said after setting match-highs in tackle busts (seven) and kicks defused (three) in the 32-6 loss. "Each week it'll get more confident."

The biggest differences French has found without the ligament there are in stability and agility – pretty key areas for a fullback whose game is based largely around speed, evasiveness and footwork.

"My first few weeks back my straight running was sweet but side to side I struggled a bit," he said.

"The game on the weekend I felt a lot better going side to side. It's only going to keep better. I've got to adapt to it and it will feel normal in the next couple of weeks."

The other immediate challenge for French to adapt to is a new playmaking roster at the Eels, with Saturday's loss to the Cowboys the first game new recruit Mitch Moses has played alongside senior half Corey Norman.

It would be unkind to blame the huge loss on the new halves combination given how thoroughly the Cowboys outplayed the Eels on Saturday but no doubt the new combinations will take some time to get used to.

"Yeah we can't dish up a performance like that again. Our effort was there but I think everyone needs to own their role and attention to detail we need to pick up before we take on the Dragons," French said.

"[The combinations are] going pretty good. [It was] Mitch and Normy's first game on the weekend and you saw the effects of that. It's only going to get better each week.

"The boys are very confident in what we can produce. It's not just them with how the spine is coming along. It's every player in the 17; on the weekend we were all off our game. We have to pick that up if we're going to be playing finals footy."

‌Moses will have plenty of eyes on him every time he plays given his high-profile mid-season switch from the Wests Tigers and he was always going to take time to find his feet in a new system. While his defence has come in for particular criticism, French said it was unfair to blame one new player when the team as a whole isn't firing.

"It doesn't just come down to Mitch. It's everyone else in the team," French said.

"If everyone else in the team is not playing good then you can't expect him to pull a rabbit out of the hat and make things happen. If the whole team is going well you'll see Mitch going well."

The fullback said combination between himself, Moses and Norman – plus hooker Kaysa Pritchard – was developing quickly at training.

"Me and Mitch formed a pretty good relationship and I've had Normy there for a couple of games last year and the start of this year," he said.

"That will all come along with time together. We do it well at training but when we get to the game our preparation side of things – it only takes two or three players not to be on their game and it puts everyone else out.

"It's not just us three preparing and focusing on ourselves. We have the whole team during video and we talk about the whole team being on. We can't just have us three working well and the rest of the team not preparing well. We are doing everything as a squad because it's mostly the squad that are having a few concentration lapses that are hurting us."
 

Gronk

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While a ruptured PCL did not put talented Eels fullback Bevan French on the sidelines for too long, the fleet-footed Tingha product is still in the process of adapting to football with no posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.
WTF ? So does this mean it grows back or he can get a silicone or donor one or like tonsils you dont need it ?
 

Obscene Assassin

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My preference would to not re sign Peats. I dont believe hes good value for the money hes asking.

We can still buy a quality hooker and have those players come through and play first grade.

I agree that Peats is asking too much (if the 600k is true) for how many games he potentially plays. 100k may not seem like much but if you end up paying 100k less for 3-4 players you are then able to afford another player.

And if they don't want to take that 100k less then they didn't want to be here in the first place and we're better off without them.
 

Swiftstylez

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Don't put words in my mouth. There are any number of reasons a player might not sign with a club. Unlike some of the hand wringers I realise that just because a player is available doesn't mean you can just sign the bastard.

But if the decision is made by BA not to sign him, and the hang up is only over 50-100k for the NSW hooker then it'll be the first time I disagree with a decision BA has made. We are desperate for a quality hooker.

*handwringers

The 2nd paragraph reads better like this: If the decision is made by BA not to sign him and the hang up is only over 50-100k for the NSW hooker, then it'll be the first time I disagree with a decision BA has made.

It reads even better like this: If BA makes the decision not to sign an NSW hooker that only requires another 50-100k it will be the first time we disagree.

Learn to simplify your sentences, they are unnecessarily wordy. You need to be more succinct in your writing style. I also notice you gravitate towards beginning the majority of your sentences with the conjunctions "And" and "But". This is sometimes a stylistic choice but there is a reason teachers tell you not to do it and it's because you are not the next Shakespeare. It just comes across as lazy when it's done repetitively. You can use a thesaurus to help you begin sentences without conjunctions if you have a limited vocabulary.
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Djay

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Lets not forget we have Mahoney and Tonise doing good things in the 20s and also the NSW Under 18 hooker in Schnider coming through. If these guys dont get an opportunity to show their wares in better company then we may regret it. Look at how well the Storm back up hooker is going tonight. A little pain for potentially a lot of gain. I feel a little the same re Dargan. Unsigned and now behind Norman, Moses, Smith and any number of forwards who BA prefers to play half. He looked great today. A lovely kicking game and defence looks every bit the equal of Moses.
Also. IDG is now very prominent in the training gallerys. Possibly a return is getting closer?
I think banking on a couple guys coming through the ranks while passing up on the current SoO hooker who you know what your gonna get from him would be absolutely absurd.

Firstly how many young kids do we hear about being the "next big thing" and how many of them live up to that? Very few.

Secondly Peats is exactly what we need while he is all that is available, his line speed in defence, his leadership, his attitude and his tenacity are all things this team is missing, severely and one of the major differences we are not as gritty and defensively resolute.

Peats is a must for me and banking on these young guys is absurd, we are a few players off being a good team, waiting for youth to come through will deny us the chance to build a good team sooner rather then later.
 

Swiftstylez

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Actually Swifty, the correct grammar is 'to sign the NSW hooker...'
You're welcome.

Both are correct, as Peats isn't the only NSW hooker to ever play origin. For example someone might suggest to sign Farah because he is "a" NSW hooker. However that is appropriate to use to clarify Bazal's original meaning. Everyone can do their bit to help Bazal with his learning difficulties.
 

Soren Lorenson

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Both are correct, as Peats isn't the only NSW hooker to ever play origin. For example someone might suggest to sign Farah because he is "a" NSW hooker. However that is appropriate to use to clarify Bazal's original meaning. Everyone can do their bit to help Bazal with his learning difficulties.
You are right of course Swifty, but both are only correct if you pronounce NSW as en ess double you, not New South Wales, as the use of an is generally used when the proceeding letter is pronounced as if a vowel.
 

lingard

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I reckon he probably is. He is highly regarded by the coach and was in the top 17 in round one last year, shortly after he re-signed. De Gois was in reserve grade.

Because the incumbent Origin hooker could cost more than he's worth. Kritchard is a talented young player and we can get good value out of him. Bringing in a lesser value player (even if better) to push out a higher value player is poor cap management.

Value is relative. And cap management is not the only consideration when trying to get together a competitive roster.
 

lingard

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No, he's a limited minutes impact hooker. His role is in the top 17.

Most players in the middle don't play 80 minutes. Why would you expect your smallest player in that group to play 80 minutes if he doesn't have to?

Your logic rests on an unfounded assumption - that Kritchard is not NRL quality. However he actually betters Peats in a few areas, including tackles per minute, metres per run and tackle breaks per run. Also line breaks and offloads.

And unlike Peats (6 games), Kritchard has played every game this year.

Just goes to show stats don't tell the whole story.
 

84 Baby

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Value is relative. And cap management is not the only consideration when trying to get together a competitive roster.
Agreed. How many fullbacks did Sharks have last year? Although Bird as fullback is arguable and easier to carry excess fullbacks than hookers
 

Poupou Escobar

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Value is relative.
Which is why I mentioned we already have an (or a) NRL quality hooker. We are looking to recruit a dummy half to complement Kritchard, not replace him.
And cap management is not the only consideration when trying to get together a competitive roster.
Yes it is. I'm not saying you should never pay overs - sometimes you have to - but you need to be very picky with whom and by how much. We might already be offering overs to Nathan Peats and it's still not enough for him. In that case we shouldn't up our offer even further if we have other things we need to do with that cap space.
 

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