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Parramatta Eels settle two-year legal stoush with former sponsor


Parramatta’s long-running stoush with former sponsor Dyldam is over after the the firm paid the Eels more than half a million dollars to settle the dispute.

The parties have been on a collision course for the best part of two years, resulting in claims and counter-claims being lodged in the Supreme Court.

Dyldam had committed to a $1 million per season sponsorship, but was concerned about reputational damage to its brand as a result of the salary cap saga.

The previous Eels administration agreed to renegotiate the deal and the result was a revised $700,000 arrangement for the 2016 season, the final year of the contract.

Yet despite the discounted rate, it’s understood that Dyldam fell behind in payments, making only a handful of $75,000 installments. When Fairfax Media revealed in August of 2016 that the new payment plan wasn’t met, the property and construction firm stopped paying altogether, leaving the club with a huge shortfall.

The parties have been at loggerheads ever since as lawyers attempted to thrash out the issue. Parramatta continued to uphold its end of the bargain, splashing the Dyldam logo on the front of its jersey and providing appropriate branding at other events. The matter was scheduled to go before the Supreme Court earlier this month, but Dyldam settled the matter on the last business day before the hearing began.

The result is the company had to cough up - once interest and legal costs are factored in - more than $550,000 to the club. The development ends a protracted saga and assists the Eels' bottom line.
“I’m pleased that it has been satisfactorily resolved,” said Parramatta chairman Max Donnelly. “I always thought that we would succeed.”

Having just won one legal battle, the Eels are now embroiled in another. The club is taking legal action against the NRL’s insurer after it refused to make a seven-figure payout to Anthony Watmough.

In what is shaping as another Supreme Court showdown, the blue and golds are taking on QBE with a claim worth $1,096,613 over its decision not to provide the backrower a career-ending insurance payout.

The Eels claim Watmough’s career was effectively ended during a preseason training mishap involving Beau Scott. QBE claims Watmough’s career is over due to a pre-existing knee injury.

Watmough played only 17 NRL games for the Eels after signing a mammoth four-year contract, showing few glimpses of the form he had displayed for Manly, NSW and Australia.

After being forced into premature retirement, the Eels cut a deal with Watmough, which resulted in him being paid out 75 per cent of his agreed contract value for the final two years, working out to $892,500. Parramatta’s claim includes that total, third-party payments, interests and costs, with the sum topping the seven-figure mark.

The Eels are desperate to curb their spending after their expenditure on the football department topped $22 million over the past two seasons.

Like all NRL clubs, they are working towards pruning costs now that a ‘soft’ cap of $5.7 million has been placed on footy expenditure.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sp...oush-with-former-sponsor-20180317-p4z4uh.html
 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...d/news-story/00aa55bb6d419234b06e8f105a165688

EELS TO SALUTE BRAVE GABRIELLA

THE Eels will wear black armbands in Sunday’s match against Manly as a tribute to Parramatta’s Young Australian of the Year Gabriella Wehbe, who recently passed away after a long battle with cancer.

Gabriella was an inspirational young women who helped raise over $400,000 for cancer research while juggling treatment, studying for her HSC, being assistant head girl at OLMC Parramatta and getting her driver’s licence.

She passed away last week after having courageously fought against a rare form of cancer. Having been inspired by her story and the fact that she was the current Young Australian of the Year for Parramatta, the Eels asked her school and family if they could honour her life in Sunday’s match.
 

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He played inside centre (which isn't a position in League). But the closest is second-row. You'd have to go a long way back to find him playing centre in league, and as far as I know he never has played centre (defending and attacking 2 in from the wing) in league.
He played wing in Harold Matts when he was 14. I don't know for sure but I assume he would've played some centre during his transition to the second row. You're right though that he never played in the backs in the NYC.
 

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He played inside centre (which isn't a position in League). But the closest is second-row.
Actually it’s closer to a traditional league five eighth. That’s because fly half (or union five eighth) is actually first receiver, so a league halfback.
Head to head, union to league position matching goes:
Fullback - fullback
Wing - wing
Outside centre - centre
Inside centre - 5/8th
Fly half - halfback
Scrum half - hooker
No 8 - those super dooper game winning second rowers like Kikau
Open side flanker - those shit second rowers who have to cover the defensive load of the super dooper players
Blind side flanker - mostly nonexistent in modern league. Ray Price type lock
Lock - tall prop
Tight head prop - short prop but most non existent
Hooker - non existent
Loose head prop - see tight head (the tight/loose head obviously refers to scrums and usually means which shoulder is their dominant scrimmaging one, although there are also some mostly defensive structure differences)
You’re all welcome.
I always found it funny when league media talked of players jumping code and had Johns playing scrum half or #CAMILLIONAIRE at hooker in union
 

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Actually it’s closer to a traditional league five eighth. That’s because fly half (or union five eighth) is actually first receiver, so a league halfback.
Head to head, union to league position matching goes:
Fullback - fullback
Wing - wing
Outside centre - centre
Inside centre - 5/8th
Fly half - halfback
Scrum half - hooker
No 8 - those super dooper game winning second rowers like Kikau
Open side flanker - those shit second rowers who have to cover the defensive load of the super dooper players
Blind side flanker - mostly nonexistent in modern league. Ray Price type lock
Lock - tall prop
Tight head prop - short prop but most non existent
Hooker - non existent
Loose head prop - see tight head (the tight/loose head obviously refers to scrums and usually means which shoulder is their dominant scrimmaging one, although there are also some mostly defensive structure differences)
You’re all welcome.
I always found it funny when league media talked of players jumping code and had Johns playing scrum half or #CAMILLIONAIRE at hooker in union
What about the "reserves"? Whats their equivalent?
 

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He played wing in Harold Matts when he was 14. I don't know for sure but I assume he would've played some centre during his transition to the second row. You're right though that he never played in the backs in the NYC.

Guessing if he played winger at 14 in an under 16 rep side, wing wasn't his normal position when playing against kids his own age.
 
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Actually it’s closer to a traditional league five eighth. That’s because fly half (or union five eighth) is actually first receiver, so a league halfback.
Head to head, union to league position matching goes:
Fullback - fullback
Wing - wing
Outside centre - centre
Inside centre - 5/8th
Fly half - halfback
Scrum half - hooker
No 8 - those super dooper game winning second rowers like Kikau
Open side flanker - those shit second rowers who have to cover the defensive load of the super dooper players
Blind side flanker - mostly nonexistent in modern league. Ray Price type lock
Lock - tall prop
Tight head prop - short prop but most non existent
Hooker - non existent
Loose head prop - see tight head (the tight/loose head obviously refers to scrums and usually means which shoulder is their dominant scrimmaging one, although there are also some mostly defensive structure differences)
You’re all welcome.
I always found it funny when league media talked of players jumping code and had Johns playing scrum half or #CAMILLIONAIRE at hooker in union


Yeh, in some Union-playing countries (i.e. NZ) the inside centre is actually referred to as 'second five-eighth'. They are typically not the crash ball runner.
 

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...f/news-story/3bc2fc991d2ffd1665b9fdc347c6d2c7

Corey Norman enjoying his football again as Mitchell Moses takes the pressure off

Michael Carayannis, The Sunday Telegraph
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LESS is more for Corey Norman. Norman is finally happy to relinquish being the Eels sole ballplayer after feeling like “had to do everything” in order for Parramatta’s attack to succeed in recent years.

Even though Mitchell Moses arrived midway through last season, Norman has spent the pre-season learning not to over play his hand.

At first it was a difficult adjustment for Norman but one he is now enjoying.

“I just have to do my job well,” Norman said. “Mitch is playing his best football. He has come back in good nick so I feel like he is going to have a big year.

“In saying that I’m one of the halves who likes to be on the ball all the time. When Mitch came, it was weird for me — not really stepping back — but I love being in control.

“You know what it takes a lot of pressure off me and frees up my game a lot more.

“I didn’t have to do everything. Mitch is here and he is a quality player. Attack wise it was a bit of a relief. I had to adjust. I didn’t have to do everything.”

Halves partners have shuffled around Norman in recent seasons. The Eels looked to have finally secured a long-term solution in Kieran Foran but the curse of the Parramatta halfback role struck again with the Foran signing ending in disaster.

The likes of Chris Sandow, Luke Kelly and Jeff Robson have also come and gone.

Now the Eels looked to have finally found a long-term partnership between Norman and Moses.

“It’s all-time having a full-time half outside me,” Norman said. “It’s pleasing. The last couple of years here I’ve had several halves partners but when Mitch came knowing he would be here for a while and I’m here it was exciting. It takes a lot of pressure off me.

“I’d seen him out and about (but

I didn’t know him before he signed). When he was coming I trusted (coach) Brad (Arthur). I jumped on board and fully supported it.

“By the looks of last year he was right.

“We need to be composed and disciplined and lead the side week in week out. We have to have a calming influence.”

Norman is still fuelled by the Eels meek end to last season. After finishing in the top four they lost consecutive games to be bundled out of the finals race.

“It burns,” Norman said. “We had a look at that early on. It hurt. It’s a new year now. We’re all better for that experience of last year.

“With any team when you go out in the finals like that, you don’t need reminding. Everyone is very competitive and proud of what you do on the field. You don’t need reminding. It still sits there. “That’s gone now. We’re ready to rip in this year.”

The pair were showed up by Penrith’s new-look halves combination Nathan Cleary and James Maloney last week. But Norman will have a chance to impress when he squares off against fellow Maroons hopeful Daly Cherry-Evans and Lachlan Croker.
 

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Yeh, in some Union-playing countries (i.e. NZ) the inside centre is actually referred to as 'second five-eighth'. They are typically not the crash ball runner.

Inside centre tends to be your running half. Flyhalf is the traditional playmaker, inside centre is the more traditional ball running five-eighth analogue.

And before fake-news Gleneel jumps on him playing in the halves as an indicator of ball skills that have evaporated or whatever....It's very common for a big fast destructive merkin (which Tepai was) to run out at inside centre in junior rugby regardless of whether he's ever passed a footy in his life just because he gets more opportunities to run over blokes.
 

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So you're saying you need to have a good 17 before individuals in the team even make a difference? Does that mean we shouldn't blow our budget on signing a fatty boomba that apparently is the only way to win a game?

I am saying its nice to have a player who can break a game wide open off the bench.
Guys that can change a game. If you think Scott,Taka,Matagi or Evans can then great. There all first graders and decent ones. It is why it makes it hard to drop any.
 

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Inside centre tends to be your running half. Flyhalf is the traditional playmaker, inside centre is the more traditional ball running five-eighth analogue.

And before fake-news Gleneel jumps on him playing in the halves as an indicator of ball skills that have evaporated or whatever....It's very common for a big fast destructive merkin (which Tepai was) to run out at inside centre in junior rugby regardless of whether he's ever passed a footy in his life just because he gets more opportunities to run over blokes.
Plus it’s schoolboys opposed to first grade. And he played for Newy who aren’t much chop at rugby
 

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I am saying its nice to have a player who can break a game wide open off the bench.
Guys that can change a game. If you think Scott,Taka,Matagi or Evans can then great. There all first graders and decent ones. It is why it makes it hard to drop any.
But still you’re saying we should have a good 17 as a minimum before even contemplating a game changing forward? Plus I assume we’d want that game changing bench forward to change games on a consistent basis otherwise you and rammy will throw him on scrap heap. So how many of these consistent, game changing bench forwards who won’t blow your cap to the point you can’t have a minimum good 17 are there in the entire league? Heck make it worldwide.
Note you can’t say someone who would start, because then you’d have to move someone else to the bench, or blow your cap
 

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Moeroa never played centres in the 20's. Please stop sharing false information.

Even when he played his one game as an 18 year old he came off the bench and played second row.
He played in the centres for union and second row for Parramatta. Was playing both games when younger.
 

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A centre needs to pass whether in union or league, doesn't he? When was the last time he passed/offloaded a ball.
The reason Taumalolo is so good is late footwork at the line and his passing game. Moeroa, around the same weight, has neither of these in his arsenal. He'll probably never develop footwork but he can develop the other skills if he puts his mind to it and become a possible rep player.
 

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A centre needs to pass whether in union or league, doesn't he? When was the last time he passed/offloaded a ball.
The reason Taumalolo is so good is late footwork at the line and his passing game. Moeroa, around the same weight, has neither of these in his arsenal. He'll probably never develop footwork but he can develop the other skills if he puts his mind to it and become a possible rep player.

And before fake-news Gleneel jumps on him playing in the halves as an indicator of ball skills that have evaporated or whatever....It's very common for a big fast destructive merkin (which Tepai was) to run out at inside centre in junior rugby regardless of whether he's ever passed a footy in his life just because he gets more opportunities to run over blokes.

You obviously know absolutely nothing about the role of an inside centre regardless, so why even bring it up?
 

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