Rumours and Stuff

[hineyrulz]

How many NRL players do you think aren’t 100% when they take the field each week? And are you aware there are numbers between 0 and 100?

There is a threshold where a player is less than 100% (fitness or injury) but still well enough to play. I think dopes like you struggle with anything that’s not black and white.

It was round 1, why risk a bloke not 100% when we had quality first graders like Kenny missing out???

And then he is rewarded with his lack of fitness with a starting spot in round 2. Don’t give me they crap out best forwards not always starting blah blah blah.


One of our fittest and most
consistent players Alvaro was benched for him. If you are struggling for fitness surely starting makes it even harder you know when the game is at its toughest when everyone is fresh???

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

#glassoverflowing
#rosecolouredglasses
#can'tseeforestfortrees
#NFI

You asked for 1 and got 4. what are you whinging about now?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

That doesn't look right. He brought something from the shops.

I think it's bringed

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Your a laugh a minute Pou, much better than Baz who considers himself an expert, you know the drip under pressure.

So a sample of 9 is too small sample to provide the necessary info?

If you're going to just judge nine games why are the most recent nine any more relevant than nine games from elsewhere in Arthur's career?

How about our recruits

All injured at the moment. I've already said coaches deal with risk.

or our form

It comes and goes, and in only nine games it can be a big factor. We won six straight last year and lost six straight this year. It doesn't mean as much as you think it does. When you get some form (good or bad) you can go on a roll (good or bad).

or our style of play or our....oh forget it.

Our style of play is affected by form and injuries. Also by things happening off the field. There are no quick fixes.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No I made that judgement before the season started in a TCT post. Also stated in a post here after round 2.

You said the same f**ken thing last year and you were wrong you silly merkin. The fact is you don't know why we've performed poorly this year. You think we should've replaced a winger with a front rower ffs!

 

[Bazal]

I think it's bringed

No it's branged

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Both Vave and Matagi are off-contract next year so they have no impact on what we potentially could have offered Keppie. We offered Kep a development contract while manly thought he was worthy of a top 30 spot.

Just as an aside, Oregan Kaufusi played ISP yesterday, and if nswrl.com can be believed he played 50 minutes. That means Kaufusi has played 50 more minutes in ISP as a 19 year old than Keppie has played as a 20 year old.

Don't get me wrong I like Keppie. He turned up and cheered on his SG Ball teammates a few years back when he was injured, great character and attitude. But he didn't start showing promise until he was 18 and struggled to make an impact as a 19 year old in the NYC until late in the year. Meanwhile Kaufusi was putting up similar numbers but a year younger. We just had a very good prop in Stefano Utoikamanu debut in the 20s who is only 18 and has made an impact when I saw him play one game the other week.

Just on this according to the "stats amazing" pdf posted by nswrl.com Kaufusi played 25 minutes running for 44 metres and making 14 tackles

 

[Bazal]

Your a laugh a minute Pou, much better than Baz who considers himself an expert, you know the drip under pressure.

So a sample of 9 is too small sample to provide the necessary info? How about our recruits, or our form, or our style of play or our....oh forget it.

Well it's all relative.

I don't consider myself an expert by any means. But I know that, relative to you, I'm f**ken Stephen Hawking

 

[Happy MEel]

Playing for Wenty also doesn’t help players recover from injury. Why has Evans only played one game for Wenty despite all the weeks he’s been out of the NRL side?

Why didn’t French play for Wenty when he was dropped? Did you read my post? It could me any number of reasons. Sure injury could be one, but so could managing personalities/ego or providing cover for the 1st grade squad (Eg. Gower). The latter two have nothing to do with injury but explains why a player has been dropped and not played for Wenty.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It was round 1, why risk a bloke not 100% when we had quality first graders like Kenny missing out???

Because they play different positions ffs. Takairangi took Edwards' spot in the 17. He and Evans add height to our pack. Edwards doesn't.

And then he is rewarded with his lack of fitness with a starting spot in round 2. Don’t give me they crap out best forwards not always starting blah blah blah.

A starting spot isn't a reward. It's a role in the game plan. If our starters were our best forwards Mannah and Matagi wouldn't have been playing only half an hour in the 10 jersey.

One of our fittest and most
consistent players Alvaro was benched for him.

And one of our fittest and most consistent - Mannah - was also benched for Matagi. The bench isn't for reserves, it's for blokes who are to come on at a time when you don't know how the game will be going, so they need to be versatile.

If you are struggling for fitness surely starting makes it even harder you know when the game is at its toughest when everyone is fresh???

If your fitness is down it only impacts the minutes you can play. And every minute in a game is important, not just the first 20.

 

[chiefy1]

You said the same f**ken thing last year and you were wrong you silly merkin. The fact is you don't know why we've performed poorly this year. You think we should've replaced a winger with a front rower ffs!

Poupau, you're the one who has absolutely no idea upon why we're sitting on two from 9.
I haven't seen anything that has any substance from yourself

 

[hineyrulz]

Because they play different positions ffs. Takairangi took Edwards' spot in the 17. He and Evans add height to our pack. Edwards doesn't.

A starting spot isn't a reward. It's a role in the game plan. If our starters were our best forwards Mannah and Matagi wouldn't have been playing only half an hour in the 10 jersey.

And one of our fittest and most consistent - Mannah - was also benched for Matagi. The bench isn't for reserves, it's for blokes who are to come on at a time when you don't know how the game will be going, so they need to be versatile.

If your fitness is down it only impacts the minutes you can play. And every minute in a game is important, not just the first 20.

So Tep Couldn’t of moved into the middle for the whole game like he has most games this year after 20mins???

You just make it up as you go along, it’s ok to start someone not fully fit because only minutes counts????

Who cares if they don’t lay a platform and put us on the back foot??? Who cares if we are down 24 nil after 20mins???

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why didn’t French play for Wenty when he was dropped?

Because his shoulder was f**ked! How is playing reserve grade going to help his shoulder? It would only help with match fitness. It's not the place to rest an injury.

 

[chiefy1]

Poupau, you're the one who has absolutely no idea upon why we're sitting on two from 9.
I haven't seen anything that has any substance from yourself

Give us the reason.

 

[hineyrulz]

Poupau, you're the one who has absolutely no idea upon why we're sitting on two from 9.
I haven't seen anything that has any substance from yourself

It’s injuries and Goal Kicking apparently.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Poupau, you're the one who has absolutely no idea upon why we're sitting on two from 9.

It's because we lost our best outside back and the bloke who replaced him has been injured, along with half a dozen of our other top 17.

I haven't seen anything that has any substance from yourself

That's because you think substance is something you buy from Bunnings and inhale out of a plastic bag you f**ken deadshit.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So Tep Couldn’t of moved into the middle for the whole game like he has most games this year after 20mins???

And then what would Takairangi have done you f**ken imbecile?!? You don't need two edge forwards on the bench. Most of them can play 80 minutes.

You just make it up as you go along, it’s ok to start someone not fully fit because only minutes counts????

If he's fit enough to play he's fit enough to start. But that doesn't mean he's at 100% fitness. There is a whole range of numbers between 100% and zero. Somewhere in there is the number that decides whether a player is fit enough for first grade. With Evans' injured ribs his fitness obviously dropped below that number which is why he was sent to the ISP and forced to drag his arse around for 60 minutes. Because it doesn't matter if your fitness makes you a liability in reserve grade, because no merkin cares.

Who cares if they don’t lay a platform and put us on the back foot??? Who cares if we are down 24 nil after 20mins???

If one player is responsible for conceding a point a minute you probably don't want him on the bench either.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Good to see you're back Pou even tho I disagree with you. How can you compare Hayne with Radradra? Both very gifted players but Semi was a sledge hammer while Hayne used guile, Semi at his peak while Hayne in decline. In saying that tho I was hoping Hayne would be better in what he has shown so far.
Evans has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is any better than a reserve grade player. One can only hope that whatever BA saw in him will be shown on the field within the 3 looong years we have him.

I reckon wing is his best position and unfortunately we havent seen too much of him in that position to declare his value as yet.
Evans looked great in the WC. To play NRL, particularly in the middle, one has to be pretty tough so I'm hoping there is cause for his average performances thus far. I live in hope. He's certainly the size we need and also has good skills when playing confidently.

 

[chiefy1]

It's because we lost our best outside back and the bloke who replaced him has been injured, along with half a dozen of our other top 17.

That's because you think substance is something you buy from Bunnings and inhale out of a plastic bag you f**ken deadshit.

That's a load of absolute bs and you know it.

Most teams are carrying injuries at this stage. Cronulla were without half a dozen.

Yes we've missed Semi, but why is it that a club must rely on one player to match the opposition?
Our pack gets completely dominated in most games. We cant handle bigger forwards coming through us dominating the ruck - and our Pack isn't better than '17 like you keep banging on about

How is our pack better with a below average player like Evans you clown

So he blames Semi for everything - what a dead set dope.

 

[Happy MEel]

Because his shoulder was f**ked! How is playing reserve grade going to help his shoulder? It would only help with match fitness. It's not the place to rest an injury.

Seriously merkin? You really were away from this forum for a while. French was dropped pure and simple. He even said as much in an interview. It has been discussed adnausem and I think everyone came to the same conclusion in the end that he was indeed dropped.

What’s the next angle?