Rumours and Stuff

[hineyrulz]

Gronk is closer to the real world on this than you.

I made a comment yesterday about setting standards but he is right when he says that the truly great players can fall
short of those standards off the field and receive preferential treatment.

There isn’t an overall benefit in applying those standards to elite players as they will just go and carve up for some other club. If they are the source of a toxic culture that spreads to other players then maybe but if they are only harming themselves. Big deal.

That said we are talking about Kenny Edwards, not Andrew Johns. Kenny will be arseholed.

So you think he deserves yet another chance???

It will be his third last chance at just out club alone.

He’s a liability on and off the field these days. What does last chance mean if we give him yet another one???

It means the club is as weak as and it’s word means nothing when it suits them.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Keep deflecting, I don’t give a f**k about other players and other clubs. I only care about what we do, he showed a total lack of respect for the club and coach by waiting 3 weeks to tell anyone.

That alone says to me we should be parting ways. But go on keep making excuses and deflecting it’s what you do.

Have you been on the mangoes again this morning? You’ve lost your f**ken head!

 

[Bazal]

Have you been on the mangoes again this morning? You’ve lost your f**ken head!

Sounds like he's been having a rough trot on tinder tbh

 

[Gary Gutful]

So you think he deserves yet another chance???

It will be his third last chance at just out club alone.

He’s a liability on and off the field these days. What does last chance mean if we give him yet another one???

It means the club is as weak as and it’s word means nothing when it suits them.

Read things properly FFS.

If he was a superstar, you’d find a way to work through it with him because you be in an overall worse position without him.

He’s not a superstar so he goes.

Stop being such a dumb merkin and join the real world.

 

[84 Baby]

Sounds like he's been having a rough trot on tinder tbh

Well I'd be angry as well then if I lost some head

 

[Stevie]

Just my 2C on the Kenny issue, I have a senior management role in the corporate world and recently had a similar issue although of course not in the sporting arena so here is how I see it.

Here is the conundrum.

If we sack Kenny Edwards for not adhering to our standards as a club, is he then free to go and sign cheaply for another club say... The Roosters? Or will the NRL step in and back us up as a club and ban him like they did with a Carney etc? Bernie needs to clarify this clearly.

Then they need to ask the question, how much does this players behaviour in recent times off the field actually effect the team? Its a serious question as I don't know however I would hazard a guess and say not much, but I could be wrong. In which case if Brad Arthur finds him valuable as a player than fine him more, ban him for 10 weeks (or something appropriate) and start again.

My point is I don't see the advantage in chopping a player who "may" not be causing grief with his poor decisions to anyone but himself (losing game time and money).

I understand that our club needs to set standards, I do. But these days in professional sport, standards go hand in hand to the value of a player and his on field talent. If the NRL are going to let him be signed by someone else than why not deal with it in house and keep him?

The board if they are strong need to identify exactly where the NRL stand in relation to this and then understand the impact on the playing group as a whole before rushing into a decision.

 

[Happy MEel]

Read things properly FFS.

If he was a superstar, you’d find a way to work through it with him because you be in an overall worse position without him.

He’s not a superstar so he goes.

Stop being such a dumb merkin and join the real world.

To be fair, you could argue Barba, Dugan and Ferguson were elite and were all rissolled from their clubs at some stage.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Just my 2C on the Kenny issue, I have a senior management role in the corporate world and recently had a similar issue although of course not in the sporting arena so here is how I see it.

Here is the conundrum.

If we sack Kenny Edwards for not adhering to our standards as a club, is he then free to go and sign cheaply for another club say... The Roosters? Or will the NRL step in and back us up as a club and ban him like they did with a Carney etc? Bernie needs to clarify this clearly.

Then they need to ask the question, how much does this players behaviour in recent times off the field actually effect the team? Its a serious question as I don't know however I would hazard a guess and say not much, but I could be wrong. In which case if Brad Arthur finds him valuable as a player than fine him more, ban him for 10 weeks (or something appropriate) and start again.

My point is I don't see the advantage in chopping a player who "may" not be causing grief with his poor decisions to anyone but himself (losing game time and money).

I understand that our club needs to set standards, I do. But these days in professional sport, standards go hand in hand to the value of a player and his on field talent. If the NRL are going to let him be signed by someone else than why not deal with it in house and keep him?

The board if they are strong need to identify exactly where the NRL stand in relation to this and then understand the impact on the playing group as a whole before rushing into a decision.

Banning a player for 10 weeks only hurts the club. If you could reduce his cost under the cap it would make sense to me but otherwise no.

 

[Happy MEel]

Just my 2C on the Kenny issue, I have a senior management role in the corporate world and recently had a similar issue although of course not in the sporting arena so here is how I see it.

Here is the conundrum.

If we sack Kenny Edwards for not adhering to our standards as a club, is he then free to go and sign cheaply for another club say... The Roosters? Or will the NRL step in and back us up as a club and ban him like they did with a Carney etc? Bernie needs to clarify this clearly.

Then they need to ask the question, how much does this players behaviour in recent times off the field actually effect the team? Its a serious question as I don't know however I would hazard a guess and say not much, but I could be wrong. In which case if Brad Arthur finds him valuable as a player than fine him more, ban him for 10 weeks (or something appropriate) and start again.

My point is I don't see the advantage in chopping a player who "may" not be causing grief with his poor decisions to anyone but himself (losing game time and money).

I understand that our club needs to set standards, I do. But these days in professional sport, standards go hand in hand to the value of a player and his on field talent. If the NRL are going to let him be signed by someone else than why not deal with it in house and keep him?

The board if they are strong need to identify exactly where the NRL stand in relation to this and then understand the impact on the playing group as a whole before rushing into a decision.

Another consideration is potential loss of future sponsorship dollars if we continually accept poor behaviour. In the extremely competitive market of corporate sponsorship, a club’s brand and marketability is incredibly important.

 

[hineyrulz]

Sounds like he's been having a rough trot on tinder tbh

Most accurate post in this thread.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hero? Don’t think so

He might’ve meant Horo.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

He might’ve meant Horo.

We don't need another Horo.

 

[hineyrulz]

Read things properly FFS.

If he was a superstar, you’d find a way to work through it with him because you be in an overall worse position without him.

He’s not a superstar so he goes.

Stop being such a dumb merkin and join the real world.

Get your tongue out of Gronks arse and answer the question merkin, should he get yet another chance????

Maybe we need hindmarshisgod to do a poll, they always seem to do well.

 

[hindy111]

If the idiot can't look after himself at 28 then I don't care where he ends up. We are not a charity organisation.

And an alcohol ban? For driving offences?

Sure but he probably has friends within club who want him around and to help.

I have no dramas with sacking him either. Players may think he is a moron.

28tld is not exactly mature. Id say 30

 

[Bazal]

Sure but he probably has friends within club who want him around and to help.

I have no dramas with sacking him either. Players may think he is a moron.

28tld is not exactly mature. Id say 30

I'm 32 and I'm sure as shit not mature, lol.

Maturity is a myth. Some people (most, IMO) never mature. Of course, most also don't drive unlicensed and flee from the coppers allegedly

 

[Gary Gutful]

To be fair, you could argue Barba, Dugan and Ferguson were elite and were all rissolled from their clubs at some stage.

You could, but that’s not what I am arguing.

I think those examples you’ve highlighted illustrate that those player’s respective clubs either:

1. Didn’t consider them elite; or

2. As I mentioned in my earlier post, assuming they were considered elite, the club was worried about the toxic influence that these players would have on their club. That is to say that they decided the club was better off overall without them.

No-one applies a standard and holds their best players accountable to those same standards if it will result in them being worse off overall.

Get real people.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Get your tongue out of Gronks arse and answer the question merkin, should he get yet another chance????

Maybe we need hindmarshisgod to do a poll, they always seem to do well.

If you weren’t such a dumb merkin you wouldn’t need to ask a question that I already answered.

Think before you post you f**ken deadshit.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Another consideration is potential loss of future sponsorship dollars if we continually accept poor behaviour. In the extremely competitive market of corporate sponsorship, a club’s brand and marketability is incredibly important.

Agreed mate. Definitely a factor.

 

[hineyrulz]

If you weren’t such a dumb merkin you wouldn’t need to ask a question that I already answered.

Think before you post you f**ken deadshit.

f**k off looser!!


I’m f**king sick of you shooting down my hyperbole with logic merkin!!

 

[Bazal]

f**k off looser!!


I’m f**king sick of you shooting down my hyperbole with logic merkin!!

Isn't it just literally the worst when that happens??