Rumours and Stuff

[I'm a loser baby...]

Why would they have more than 30 contracted players. His tweet explicitly states that this 'prepayment' relies on moving other players on before June 30. So, if Player X is currently on 500k for 2018, 800k for 2019 and 1m for 2020, and the Dogs move on a player who has $250k left on their 2018 contract, they could potentially up Player X's 2018 salary to $750k, and reduce 2020 salary by $250k. I believe that they'd need to extend Player X's contract though (unless they've changed that rule). They are not 'prepaying' 2019 salary. They are replacing Player X's contract with one of similar value over the 3 years, but with different distribution of payments.

"No. You can’t reduce the amount of a registered contract. You can prepay them if you had money available in this year’s cap."

Well that's just front loading and extending. That wasn't my reading of the tweet. Why not just use the term everyone knows? He doesn't mention getting those registered contracts renegotiated and extended either.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I think you're right though, he's just used an uncommon term. But also they can't use all of that money to front load as they have to replace the player.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Only really manly and the dogs have had big cap problems with back ended contracts.

Cowboys and sharks never had the same problems. The roosters, broncos and storm have not had problems either (but they probably have more TPA’s then others)

All these 5 have consistently made the finals.

Appears only Des coached sides experience these problems.

 

[emjaycee]

Maybe he is just talking about doing what his words mean.

Player X is on a contract worth $400k for 3 years. You pay him in advance (prepay him) $200k this year above his $400k and then next year he only needs to be paid $200k to be even. It doesn't change his contract value.

The Salary Cap is a combination of what is registered in total contracts (a club needs to lodge a Salary Cap forecast at the start of a year) and also a summary of what was spent (lodged at the end of the year) as a true up.

The NRL won't knowingly let a club forecast to be over the cap but they really only care about what was spent at the end.

Oh and @Poupou Escobar - FYI the salary cap year runs 1st Nov to 31st Oct.

 

[strider]

That was around a 60% increase on the previous year. You're talking about a 300% increase. I can't find you a quote because all the websites are shut at this time of night but I'm sure we've heard that massive differences between years are not on.

LOL ... i hate this 9 to 5 internet

 

[hindy111]

Interesting comment by Gus, never realised you could pre pay contracts.

Old cry baby back on twitter now things going well...

 

[hindy111]

Rams.

White panthers

 

[hindy111]

I heard Duke say its harder with young guys. They have clauses in contracts.

Year 2 if start over 16 games may get extra 100k or if make origin extra 100k etc...
And that makes thing difficult to predict total cap

 

[strider]

I heard Duke say its harder with young guys. They have clauses in contracts.

Year 2 if start over 16 games may get extra 100k or if make origin extra 100k etc...
And that makes thing difficult to predict total cap

I think parra should include 100k worth of origin bonuses in every players contract ... theres 3m in savings right there

 

[TheRam]

White panthers

or White Unicorns.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

"No. You can’t reduce the amount of a registered contract. You can prepay them if you had money available in this year’s cap."

Well that's just front loading and extending. That wasn't my reading of the tweet. Why not just use the term everyone knows? He doesn't mention getting those registered contracts renegotiated and extended either.

But again, why would they have more than 30 players? Any new contract has to be registered with the NRL, regardless of whether it is extended.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

But again, why would they have more than 30 players? Any new contract has to be registered with the NRL, regardless of whether it is extended.

We were talking about Maloney, who actually was prepaid, so I was thinking about a player joining the dogs in 2019 but getting paid something this year. And you have to have 30 in your squad.
Edit: I thought you probably couldn't include that player as part of your 30, so any payment to him would be to a 31st player.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I thought Gus just meant if they free up let’s say $500k this year, they can use that amount to pay a player like Klemmer, without any changes to his contract, an extra $500k in 2018, thus reducing the amount he is paid in 2019 and freeing up $500k to buy another player for 2019.

Doesn’t sound right to me.

 

[strider]

We were talking about Maloney, who actually was prepaid, so I was thinking about a player joining the dogs in 2019 but getting paid something this year. And you have to have 30 in your squad.
Edit: I thought you probably couldn't include that player as part of your 30, so any payment to him would be to a 31st player.

Guy gets injured (lets randomly call him, Sceau Bott) You dont plan to keep him next year, while his $s still count, you also have 100k spare. Cut injured dude, sign someone else, include 100k of his money in this years cap

 

[strider]

I thought Gus just meant if they free up let’s say $500k this year, they can use that amount to pay a player like Klemmer, without any changes to his contract, an extra $500k in 2018, thus reducing the amount he is paid in 2019 and freeing up $500k to buy another player for 2019.

Doesn’t sound right to me.

Gus knows all the cheats

 

[hineyrulz]

That was around a 60% increase on the previous year. You're talking about a 300% increase. I can't find you a quote because all the websites are shut at this time of night but I'm sure we've heard that massive differences between years are not on.

It's one of the excuses why we couldn't sign Falonk. 250k and then up to 800K the next two years or whatever it was.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I thought Gus just meant if they free up let’s say $500k this year, they can use that amount to pay a player like Klemmer, without any changes to his contract, an extra $500k in 2018, thus reducing the amount he is paid in 2019 and freeing up $500k to buy another player for 2019.

Doesn’t sound right to me.

Me either.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Guy gets injured (lets randomly call him, Sceau Bott) You dont plan to keep him next year, while his $s still count, you also have 100k spare. Cut injured dude, sign someone else, include 100k of his money in this years cap

Yeah but that's still only 30 players at any one time.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Rumour on FB that we are keen on Matt Parcell.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Rumour on FB that we are keen on Matt Parcell.

I was trying to find some evidence of that yesterday as it was reported on the nospam46.

It appears it was first reported here, that some NRL clubs were interested in him:


But there was no mention of the Eels only broncos, dogs and storm.

Then a few hours later this dude, who doesn’t appear to be reliable posted it, but decided to add the eels: