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hineyrulz

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So while we are playing hypotheticals... if you had to choose just one for 2019, who would you choose to keep between Norman and Moses?
Why do either have to go?? Why can’t the coaching staff form a plan of attack that works to their strengths???

If that is beyond them we should f**k them off and find someone capable of doing that.

Getting rid of Norman and saying it’s all about price and attitude is an absolute cop out when we are signing blokes like Paulo and Ferguson.
 

hindy111

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My point is the talk of the new crop
Brown,Salmon,Mahoney,Kafusi,Dunster,Stefano,Stone,Fainga

Followed by perhaps the following lot of
Parry,Schneider


How many will make nrl and play over 100 games. And how many will be representative players.
Not all need to be but our current team need some more then just nrl players. It is a long stretch to think these guys not only will be NRL players but be high quality ones.
I will follow their progression with interest.The success of a nrl team comes from a steady flow of juniors. And why we have 3 spoon in 7 years. Lack of.
When buying players who are NRL established your never getting a cheap 1 or 2 years like you will from a junior.
Our successs come from - Semi on unders along with Moses costing half his contract as signed mid year.
 

Noise

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But maybe we do need to, hypothetically of course.

We don't need to. They are both under contract for 2019 and we should keep them because we have no better options. BA wants (not needs) to punt Norman. But if you were going to punt one I would punt Moses. He's had maybe 2 good games all year.

He also never gelled with Brooks on the field at the Tigers. Now he hasn't gelled with Norman. Maybe Moses is the problem
 
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emjaycee

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Why do either have to go?? Why can’t the coaching staff form a plan of attack that works to their strengths???

If that is beyond them we should f**k them off and find someone capable of doing that.

Getting rid of Norman and saying it’s all about price and attitude is an absolute cop out when we are signing blokes like Paulo and Ferguson.
And your answer is???
 

Chipmunk

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So while we are playing hypotheticals... if you had to choose just one for 2019, who would you choose to keep between Norman and Moses?

All being equal (being paid about the same and we'd still have to pay for one to play elsewhere), I'd go with Norman for a few reasons. We can probably offload Moses easier and have to pay less, Norman is a natural left foot kicker, and they seem to be harder to come by.

I think one has to go as both here is contributing to our issues with squad balance.
 

emjaycee

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We don't need to. They are both under contract for 2019 and we should keep them because we have no better options. BA wants (not needs) to punt Norman. But if you were going to punt one I would punt Moses. He's had maybe 2 good games all year.

He also never gelled with Brooks on the field at the Tigers. Now he hasn't gelled with Norman. Maybe Moses is the problem

One is more riskier to keep in relation to off-field drama, the other might be causing drama in the sheds - which one goes?
 

emjaycee

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Why do we have to lose either???


Just a cop out from a coach unable to get the best out of the squad he has built.

And on what they have offered this season you would have to say Norman stays.
Why does it have to always go back to being the coaches fault?
Is he supposed to mother hen the players 24/7?
 

Obscene Assassin

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To be fair, I think when as fans we see juniors coming through, we can only judge on aptitude and so we 'rave' about what we see on the field in Flegg, NYC, etc.
The coaching staff however also get to judge on attitude and they make a call also on the ability of the player to do the hard yards that is needed to maintain the aptitude they displayed in the juniors into first grade.

I am not sure what happened to Aufalo and Dargan, however Pauli Pauli, Tanginoa and Davis obviously didn't have the attitude and were all released once it was identified.

Tui is only 19 this year. Don't think we should be writing off a 19 year old player just yet.
 

Happy MEel

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But the other one is also not playing to the coaches instructions... does that influence your decision?
Is it possible the player isn’t playing to the coach’s instructions due to the dramas the other is causing in the sheds? If what you’re saying is true, perhaps player A isn’t the only one not playing to the coach’s instructions and he is being given the ball in situations over player B that the coach may not be happy with. If that’s the case player A can’t be working alone unless he is our hooker (which I highly doubt).
 

emjaycee

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Is it possible the player isn’t playing to the coach’s instructions due to the dramas the other is causing in the sheds? If what you’re saying is true, perhaps player A isn’t the only one not playing to the coach’s instructions and he is being given the ball in situations over player B that the coach may not be happy with. If that’s the case player A can’t be working alone unless he is our hooker (which I highly doubt).
I don't know mate - it is only a hypothesis afterall.
 

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