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El Diablo

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It was probably around our 6th straight loss.
Like I said, if we lose 6 straight again it probably means he's done for. But if we get a couple of good wins and compete well in others then I think that would be too early to make a decision.
if we miss the 8 would you give Arthur a new contract?
 

Bolgeel

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if we miss the 8 would you give Arthur a new contract?
That’s a really hard one if it’s 9th or 10 and it’s congested. The issue is if we are competitive and we re-sign him then the risk is having a avaerage coach long term. I think he has to make the 8 to stay imo
 

T.S Quint

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if we miss the 8 would you give Arthur a new contract?

If we are in a position mid-year where we are not in a position to make the 8 then I would be looking at other coaching options. If we are in a decent position mid-year but end up missing the Finals, then I would say "See ya later". Of course if there are circumstances which led to that situation (loss of players due to injury or suspension, etc) then you would have to take that into account.
 

84 Baby

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The BA extension condition would almost have to be win premiership. Unless we make finals and he agrees to a club friendly contract
 

Incorrect

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If things are going pear shaped 6-10 rounds in, I'd punt him and put Potter in charge. I think he could still turn out to be a good NRL coach, he was treated very harshly by the Tigers IMO. Now that Maguire is signed long term by the Tigers I don't really see many other outstanding, experienced candidates. Give Potter half a season to put his stamp o on the team and then let him take the reins full time for 2020 and 2021....that's probably the way I'd go...
 
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If things are going pear shaped 6-10 rounds in, I'd punt him and put Potter in charge. I think he could still turn out to be a good NRL coach, he was treated very harshly by the Tigers IMO. Now that Maguire is signed long term by the Tigers I don't really see many other outstanding, experienced candidates. Give Potter half a season to put his stamp o on the team and then let him take the reins full time for 2020 and 2021....that's probably the way I'd go...


unless there has been a deal done beforehand clubs usually don't hire coaches midseason they just let the assistant act as caretaker for the rest of the year
 

Incorrect

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unless there has been a deal done beforehand clubs usually don't hire coaches midseason they just let the assistant act as caretaker for the rest of the year
That's kind of what I was getting at. He's part of the coaching staff in the organisation now right, at Wenty? Just promote him to NRL coach if 2019 is going tits up, let him see out 2019 and unless he's a complete retatd that makes BA look like Jack Gibson, leave him there for 2020 and 2021
 

ImTheMan

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That's kind of what I was getting at. He's part of the coaching staff in the organisation now right, at Wenty? Just promote him to NRL coach if 2019 is going tits up, let him see out 2019 and unless he's a complete retatd that makes BA look like Jack Gibson, leave him there for 2020 and 2021

Why is everyone obsessed with who the coach is? The coach has not been the problem with the Eels since before Brian Smith left. The problem with the Eels is the players and not just their culture, but their attitude to the team as a whole. Do you honestly look back over the last few years and believe that the Eels players care about the team itself, never alone the city of Parramatta or it's citizens? I say this because you can tell there is a distinct lack of effort in the games when they are trailing. It's one thing to know that you are bested by an opponent, it's another entirely to switch off physically and mentally when Eels fans spend their hard earned money to funnel into your salary. How many Eels players at the moment make you go: "WOW, I love that guy and how much effort he puts in to his performances! It's like he actually cares about my experience as a fan!"

How many Eels players do you honestly think care about Parramatta or the Eels? I'd say next to zero, maybe Hayne, but honestly who knows anymore. The situation is bleak, we need more passionate players that care about the team and the city. There is no emotional attachment, it's like they are puppets going through the motions for the $$$ and the fame but not even willing to put up the pretense that they care about "Parramatta". You could say this is true of most professional sports where the players chop and change but this is incorrect, you don't have to be born and bred in a system to have an attachment to a team. It's very telling that Eels players will jump at the chance of being shopped out to other teams, regardless of whether they deserve to be moved on or not.

Have a look at Melbourne over the last decade. Do you think the players care about the city, the team, the fans and each other and put in even when they are no longer in the fight? I'd say even in the A-League where there are even more player changes, the shit teams have players that you can tell are trying even if they are getting belted and have some form of respect for the jersey they are in.

Arthur's main downfall is not being able to ignite some kind of pride in PARRAMATTA from the players, but he wouldn't be the first coach. That and holding onto "veterans" that would not get a start anywhere else. The Eels team of 2001 didn't need many "senior players".
 
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IFR33K

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I can’t beleive I’m saying this but if we sack him and panic into taking anyone mid season it would be the wrong move.

If he is not in our plans we let him at least finish season 2019 and plan with proper due diligence for 2020.


Hedging your bets each way?
 

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