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hindy111

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In all likelihood the parra curse would have got him had he come straight to parra ... he would have been washed up 3 years ago

All players have risk. Panthers signed Merrin and Tamou for leadership. Neithers been great but atleast age wasnt a factor and both remained NRL standards plus perhaps leadership behind scenes.
 

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Scott and Watmough come for a pay day. I am sure they huffed and puffed but both just baited the club and took them for what they are worth. Fooled them.
Two shithouse signings and only one eyed supporters would disagree to soften the blow of the duds they where and garbage they dished out.
Once guys get to 30 and played mainly for one club its hard for them to put their heart and soul i to a new team. Especially if already won the big prize.

IMO Scott was really good for us in 2016-2017.
 

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Anyhows I think we have leaders in the club in Gutherson and Alvaro.
I also reckon guys like KE,Norman,Hayne had strong personalites and held them back. And as nice a guy Tim is he is not a leader and is getting in the way of these guys. But he is a great example and happy to have him part of squad.
 

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The original point about good managers developing leaders is a valid one.

Can anyone think of a player that has developed into a leader because of BA?
 
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The original point about good managers developing leaders is a valid one.

Can anyone think of a player that has developed into a leader because of BA?
I agree to an extent but I reckon the most important part of 'developing' leaders is identifying and signing the right recruits. And we're definitely hamstrung in the signing bit.
 

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The original point about good managers developing leaders is a valid one.

Can anyone think of a player that has developed into a leader because of BA?

I think we will see Alvaro and Gutherson become leaders this season.
We had some big personalites who where dickheads and they are now gone. Sometimes this holds guys back.
I also think Mahoney will be very influential to the side. He is hugh energy and barks orders. Moses is another guy who I would of had put into a course to help develop leadership skills over the offseason. Inteligent kid.
 

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There are also 6 teams we play once
Storm,Roosters,Cowboys,Titans,Warriors,Souths

No trip to NZ is a bonus and Storm at Suncorp .

Happy to only play Storm,Roosters Cowboys,Souths once. Titans twice would of been nice but I expect them to be stronger then people think.

We do get Tigers,Dogs,Raiders,Manly twice along with Sharks who are on shaky grounds....
 

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The original point about good managers developing leaders is a valid one.

Can anyone think of a player that has developed into a leader because of BA?

Hard to say as fans who has developed because of BA, we don't know. In fact I don't think anyone could argue the point that someone has become a leader solely because of BA.

But these are players I think are leaders now that weren't before: Gutherson, Brown, Alvaro, Moeroa. Are these players leaders because of BA? Hard to say. Guth could be a leader now because BA gave him the chance to be a major part of a team whereas at manly he was an afterthought, same with Brown at souths.
 

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Hard to say as fans who has developed because of BA, we don't know. In fact I don't think anyone could argue the point that someone has become a leader solely because of BA.

But these are players I think are leaders now that weren't before: Gutherson, Brown, Alvaro, Moeroa. Are these players leaders because of BA? Hard to say. Guth could be a leader now because BA gave him the chance to be a major part of a team whereas at manly he was an afterthought, same with Brown at souths.

Who are the next wave of under 20s players to keep an eye on? Any special talents?
And do you see Scnheider in 20s or nsw cup.
Also GL. Has he improved at training? I read was struggling big time.
 

Gary Gutful

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Hard to say as fans who has developed because of BA, we don't know. In fact I don't think anyone could argue the point that someone has become a leader solely because of BA.

But these are players I think are leaders now that weren't before: Gutherson, Brown, Alvaro, Moeroa. Are these players leaders because of BA? Hard to say. Guth could be a leader now because BA gave him the chance to be a major part of a team whereas at manly he was an afterthought, same with Brown at souths.
Yeah, agree. As not as straightforward as some try and make it.
 

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