Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

They were but we have an amazing ability to make even the worst look like world beaters.

Does that prove we're in fact not flat track bullies?

 

[TheRam]

I thought the Raiders were very good.

No, we just didn't know how to pass away from the ruck to avoid their in our face compressed ruck defense.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No, we just didn't know how to pass away from the ruck to avoid their in our face compressed ruck defense.

Really? I remember Jarrod Croker missing plenty of tackles on Will Penisini in that game.

 

[The Eel]

Who were Fittler's assistants in SoO?

Fitzgibbon was one I know. I THINK Dymmock was the other

 

[Happy MEel]

I thought the Raiders were very good.

I thought we were very bad.

 

[hineyrulz]

Really? I remember Jarrod Croker missing plenty of tackles on Will Penisini in that game.

Lol jarrod Croker is the worst defensive centre in that comp these days, and Ricky is about to punt him. That said Penisini made some nice probing runs and stuck his head through a few times. Unlucky to be dropped to be fair.

 

[hineyrulz]

Brandy alexander was his chief advisor

*Queef

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lol jarrod Croker is the worst defensive centre in that comp these days

Which is why we got early ball to Penisini out wide, disproving TheRam's comment that we didn't know how to pass the ball away from Canberra's compressed middle defence.

 

[hindy111]

I reckon if they win the GF again this year the ARLC should take it off them and awarded it to their opposition there and then. Get the opposition team to hold up the trophy and do the lap of honour and take all the photos and celebrations. That is the only way that the Storm can go close to feeling the way the Parramatta players and fans felt at the time and are feeling right now. If anything it bites even more now since we still haven't come close to winning one since and they have just continued on there cheating/winning smug ways.

Who said anything about bitter?

Most often then not when they talk about Bellamy they include the premierships when they cheated.

 

[lingard]

Mark Levy is a nobody. Aldi Ray Hadley wannabe.

He was a good player, but

 

[Eelogical]

Lol jarrod Croker is the worst defensive centre in that comp these days, and Ricky is about to punt him. That said Penisini made some nice probing runs and stuck his head through a few times. Unlucky to be dropped to be fair.

Some nice puns there. Do you think viagra would help?

 

[hineyrulz]

Some nice puns there. Do you think viagra would help?

It might stiffen up the Eels defence.

 

[Eelogical]

It might stiffen up the Eels defence.

Up the middle?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

If we lose he might get the shaft.

 

[84 Baby]

I hope he whips out his penis and slams it into their collective vagina (or ass, I don’t discriminate)

 

[TheRam]

Which is why we got early ball to Penisini out wide, disproving TheRam's comment that we didn't know how to pass the ball away from Canberra's compressed middle defence.

Go watch the game again mate. There were plenty of times that we should have moved the ball out of the ruck and all we did was give it to the first guy next to the ruck to only get hammered by the waiting defense in numbers.

Just because we sent it out to Penisini doesn't mean that we spread it when we should or used the ball the right way. Picking Isolated moments where Penisini got it and did well doesn't mean that we played well or smart with the ball. You need to look at the game as a whole, not just a moment here or there mate. Typical dumb, dumb mistake made by a fan that doesn't understand the game very well.

Keep watching though mate, eventually over time and with enough tutelage from persons like me or Hindy111 and you might just learn enough to at least not embarrass yourself when discussing footy on sites like these.

You're welcome

 

[emjaycee]

*You are

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Picking Isolated moments where Penisini got it and did well doesn't mean that we played well or smart with the ball. You need to look at the game as a whole, not just a moment here or there mate.

Ok let's look at the game as a whole: https://mc.championdata.com/nrl/

Over 80 minutes the Raiders centres attempted 23 (Croker) and 25 (Kris) tackles. In the same round of footy no centre pairing attempted more tackles than our opponents. I dunno mate, maybe they defended in the middle and that's why they're called centres? Could Ricky Stuart be the only merkin stuck further in the past than you?

 

[TheRam]

*You are

Thanks mate. Don't you ever make typos?

 

[TheRam]

Ok let's look at the game as a whole: https://mc.championdata.com/nrl/

Over 80 minutes the Raiders centres attempted 23 (Croker) and 25 (Kris) tackles. In the same round of footy no centre pairing attempted more tackles than our opponents. I dunno mate, maybe they defended in the middle and that's why they're called centres? Could Ricky Stuart be the only merkin stuck further in the past than you?

Don't worry about the game stats mate. Like I have told you before. Stats don't always tell the story you think they do. Watch with your eyes and assess with your brain. Did we play into their hands the way we attacked or did we use our brains to adjust our game plan so as we could break up their "smash mouth" defense?

Look at the Titans last night in the first half when they were competing for a clue. Come on I know you can do it. Throw away the stats and breathe. I know it's all you know and a massive security blanket. Don't worry, they have their place and you can pick them up again anytime when needed and appropriate, but for now just watch and think, what should we do when Josh Hodgson and Co are flying at us at the ruck and smashing us relentlessly at the play the ball?

A. Keep running as hard as we can straight at them?

or

B. Spread the ball quickly and as far to the edges where the defense would be vulnerable?

As for their centres having the highest attempted tackle count. We play, pass, pass, pass football. Very few decoys and players in motion. Of course their centres are going to make a lot of tackles, but very rarely will they be under to much pressure due to our sparkling and adventures creativity with the ball and footwork or speed and quality ball passing. Like I have told you many times. We play like we train, just like the Storm and every other team in the NRL. So what we do on the training paddock, that's what we do on the playing field on game day.

A game like the Raiders, one where our plan A game is being bashed out of us, we don't train for anything else, so we just get smashed or because it isn't part of our training, when we finally wake up and try to throw it around we have a very poor record of getting it right. And like I have mentioned here for a couple of years now, the bash and barge game is a very short sighted losers tactic unless you have finesse, footwork and speed to back it up and relieve the players from the physical collision to ease their burden.

And like I said before, the tactic of bash and barge reminds me of the great Western Suburbs teams of the mid 70's. They would annihilate everyone during the season proper, but come semi finals time they would get done. They had no fuel in the tank by then and the other teams like Manly, Parra, Cronulla and St George would go up a notch or two in intensity and whoop their arse. They never featured in a Grand Final ever, which is bizarre because if you watched the game back then, for at least 2 or 3 seasons during the regular games they were the team to beat. Again remember, when you try to kick every stone walking down the street, you will end up with no shoes.

Drop the stats and think.

You're welcome

Better @emjaycee ?

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