Rumours and Stuff

[hindy111]

That's because the kick is the most important part of the set, and the position of the play-the-ball is a big part of the kick's success.

Jake can kick the ball a lot further then I thought. Actualy the ball come off his boot much nicer this week then any other games I've seen. Prior his kicks looked wonky.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Nope, Salmon wasn’t in our system then

the last time Ricky and Salmon were in the same system, Salmon was playing U10s.

if he is holding a grudge on a 9 year old, he’s more f**king stupid than I thought he was

Maybe it was Ricky's car that Jaemon crashed into early one morning?

 

[hindy111]

Yes Moses is important.
But so is squad balance. If we did lose him for example and Gutherson went to 5/8 and Russel to fullback or JA to halfback we have 700k up our sleeve.
Imagine replacing Makatoa and Kafusi who prob cost 350k between them with two 500k bench forwards for example. We would have 30mins a game where our go forward is as good as when we have Jnr and Rcg on or close.

 

[Cloeel]

Yes Moses is important.
But so is squad balance. If we did lose him for example and Gutherson went to 5/8 and Russel to fullback or JA to halfback we have 700k up our sleeve.
Imagine replacing Makatoa and Kafusi who prob cost 350k between them with two 500k bench forwards for example. We would have 30mins a game where our go forward is as good as when we have Jnr and Rcg on or close.

It would not surprise me if the Dolphins were to miss out on Drinkwater and go all out for Moses.

Where would you draw the line in terms of $$$ for Moses. If D Brown continues to develop; is Moses still worth 1mil to us?

 

[hindy111]

It would not surprise me if the Dolphins were to miss out on Drinkwater and go all out for Moses.

Where would you draw the line in terms of $$$ for Moses. If D Brown continues to develop; is Moses still worth 1mil to us?

900k imo. His composure in big games or when behind aren't great. His defense isnimproved and ok but will always be a slight weakness.

 

[Jake the snake]

It would not surprise me if the Dolphins were to miss out on Drinkwater and go all out for Moses.

Where would you draw the line in terms of $$$ for Moses. If D Brown continues to develop; is Moses still worth 1mil to us?

Yep. No other decent halves on the market. Lack of quality in halves competition wide. Moses and Brown are must keeps. Alternative is the coaches son who at this stage is not up to it.

 

[hindy111]

Yep. No other decent halves on the market. Lack of quality in halves competition wide. Moses and Brown are must keeps. Alternative is the coaches son who at this stage is not up to it.

Your not worried if we have spent 2 million on our halves what the rest of the squad may look like?
Look what SOS did yesterday good solid calm half with a good kick game. Also our best win of the season was this week if ask me. A fired up Manly playing for their season at home and down 14-8. We even butchered a few tries or where wrongly denied. Could of hit 50.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Alternative is the coaches son who at this stage is not up to it.

You're still peddling this bullshit?

 

[Jake the snake]

You're still peddling this bullshit?

He’s not ready yet to lead a team. So much in his game needs improvement. A few years off.

 

[hindy111]

The other thing I was thinking about with players is menatlity.
JA has been booed and copped a hiding for weeks. Imagine being in his shoes and getting picked to play at Manly and knowing the pressure is on to win.
Game on the line and as a 19yr old he pulled of 2 of the biggest plays of the game to win it for us. That's composure.
This is something many fans don't notice but the pressure he was under was immense. He handled it very well and didn't let it effect his game.

That's my issue with Moses. He gets so emotional during a game and loses the plot to often in big moments. Yes JA might be slow and lacks attacking brilliance but his mentality and composure is awesome. I also believe that's that is hard to change. You can improve it but it isn't something you are born with.

 

[hindy111]

He’s not ready yet to lead a team. So much in his game needs improvement. A few years off.

Agree but he is already more composed then Moses don't you think?

 

[Jake the snake]

Your not worried if we have spent 2 million on our halves what the rest of the squad may look like?
Look what SOS did yesterday good solid calm half with a good kick game. Also our best win of the season was this week if ask me. A fired up Manly playing for their season at home and down 14-8. We even butchered a few tries or where wrongly denied. Could of hit 50.

No I’m not worried. That’s where the money should go to decent halves. Not to our over paid fullback. Gutho played his best game of the season against Manly but based on his overall season/s has not warranted that massive contract. Error by the club. He’s been overpaid by 300k

 

[hindy111]

No I’m not worried. That’s where the money should go to decent halves. Not to our over paid fullback. Gutho played his best game of the season against Manly but based on his overall season/s has not warranted that massive contract. Error by the club. He’s been overpaid by 300k

I agree with that. But its done now so what are alternatives? Dig a deeper hole ?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

He’s not ready yet to lead a team. So much in his game needs improvement. A few years off.

But he can come in and do a job very well. He's up to first grade, he showed that on Friday night.

 

[Jake the snake]

Agree but he is already more composed then Moses don't you think?

For his age group yes but not more than Moses just for the fact of where they are in the careers. Jake needs to fill out more. He’s the type of player that would come good at 23/24/25. Has heaps to work on - speed, kicking game, reading defence. I’m not saying he’s hopeless just saying he’s got a fair bit to go. And I’d rather pay Moses a million because the halves market is baron.

 

[Jake the snake]

But he can come in and do a job very well. He's up to first grade, he showed that on Friday night.

Always said that if we had an injury that we put him in. We don’t have anyone else. And he set up two nice tries on Friday. First half was very average for him. I think what got most fans offside was earlier in the year BA chose to move Dylan brown out of position to accomodate Jake. Poor coaching move.

 

[Jake the snake]

I agree with that. But its done now so what are alternatives? Dig a deeper hole ?

Investing in Moses is not digging a deeper hole. It’s protecting the future. There’s nobody in the market better or cheaper. He’s in 800k now another 200k is nothing.

 

[84 Baby]

I agree with that. But its done now so what are alternatives? Dig a deeper hole ?

It depends if we think they can win a title in those next contracts. We’ve already gone pretty much all in with Gutho, Junior, RCG, etc. so might be sort forced that way anyway

 

[IFR33K]

Always said that if we had an injury that we put him in. We don’t have anyone else. And he set up two nice tries on Friday. First half was very average for him. I think what got most fans offside was earlier in the year BA chose to move Dylan brown out of position to accomodate Jake. Poor coaching move.

yeah he wouldn’t be doing that now. Was insane at the time. Thankfully brown has been excellent, and showing his debut season was no fluke.

 

[hindy111]

It depends if we think they can win a title in those next contracts. We’ve already gone pretty much all in with Gutho, Junior, RCG, etc. so might be sort forced that way anyway

The way Dylan's game is evolving I think loosing Moses wouldn't hurt as much.