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hindy111

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Murchie is a second Rower for me but he's been used in the middle. He was hitting good holes when at the Warriors.

I hope they were on minimum.

Just remember though Greig was purchased a few years ago and is only just getting a good run in first grade so who knows if these 2 plan to stick around for that long.

It seems to take 2yrs to get them Parra fit.
 

hindy111

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$500k Kane took even longer.

Bryce is getting there.

So we seem to have quite a few of these what I'd call sort of Nrl players. How much do they cost?
Look at say Bryce,Murchie,Moimesea,Doorey,Davey. That's 5 2nd rowers.I can tell you now none of them would be on minimum. But how much over the 130k min would they cost?
My estimate is
Bryce -250k His form was strong when re-signed and Dragons interested.
Murchie - 240k As above
Doorey - 200k Young and talented
Davey - 180k
Moimesea - 160k

If we replaced all of them with min wage guys we would have 350k +130k to spend. So the question is what's better. The 5 guys above or lets say Papali'i and 4 x min wagers.
The more I think about it doing what we've done is probably quite smart.
We also snagged Hopgood for my guess around 250k as well. He is proving to be the value pick.
Doorey I still think can become a good player. Needs to fix defense a little is all.
 

Gazzamatta

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Bryce is getting there.

So we seem to have quite a few of these what I'd call sort of Nrl players. How much do they cost?
Look at say Bryce,Murchie,Moimesea,Doorey,Davey. That's 5 2nd rowers.I can tell you now none of them would be on minimum. But how much over the 130k min would they cost?
My estimate is
Bryce -250k His form was strong when re-signed and Dragons interested.
Murchie - 240k As above
Doorey - 200k Young and talented
Davey - 180k
Moimesea - 160k

If we replaced all of them with min wage guys we would have 350k +130k to spend. So the question is what's better. The 5 guys above or lets say Papali'i and 4 x min wagers.
The more I think about it doing what we've done is probably quite smart.
We also snagged Hopgood for my guess around 250k as well. He is proving to be the value pick.
Doorey I still think can become a good player. Needs to fix defense a little is all.
I always liked Davey. Finally got a chance out of desperation and he proved himself. Emu likewise. Offa has been a slug but 2 weeks ago he had a go. I reckon Cini could do similar. Its recognising what you have and providing opportunity. Carty falls into this category. This is surely better than flogging your guns to exhaustion. Everybody wins.
Knights 2s maybe last but out 2s last week and the week b4 were putrid. A few get an opportunity and its reflected in a more positive attitude today. Its a squad of 30. Keep them all keen.
 

hindy111

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I'd be re-signing Greig. He's only 23, his best years as a middle are ahead of him and he's getting better each week for mine. This RCG absence might be the making of Greig. I think he may attract interest from plenty of clubs if he hasn't already.

We've probably waited to long. We had chance to extend him before we decided to give him extended game time. Now we will pay extra.
 

Bandwagon

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I'd be re-signing Greig. He's only 23, his best years as a middle are ahead of him and he's getting better each week for mine. This RCG absence might be the making of Greig. I think he may attract interest from plenty of clubs if he hasn't already.

How often does that happen, an injury forcing an opening that is the break a fringe first grader needs to prove themselves as NRL quality.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I know this is a few months old but I hadn't seen it before.

Does anyone know when Sarantinos says we made $1m profit is that the Football Club side and where he says $20m is that the Leagues Club part? Also are they profits before tax or after tax?

Also does anyone know how we are going to make a handy earnings from our COE?

Also does anyone know anything about the Dural Country Club we are thinking of amalgamating with? Are they a big powerful wealth club?

Also to the nong that posted this earlier somewhere by simply doing a cut and paste of a pay walled headline. Thanks for being so uselessly helpful.


Dec 16, 2022 – 2.56pm
The once-struggling Parramatta Eels club will diversify its income stream away from poker machines by leasing commercial and retail space in a new $65 million rugby league facility.

The move is being made before potential gambling reforms by the NSW government that could drastically cut the income of the Parramatta Leagues Club, which owns the football club.

The Eels’ centre of excellence is being built in the Sydney suburb of Kellyville and will be the largest dedicated rugby league facility in the country, with five playing fields. It is due to be completed in 2024.

“We’ve gone from a significant loss-making enterprise back five or six years ago to a club that has generated profits in excess of $1 million in each of the past three years,” Eels chief executive Jim Sarantinos said.

“This is quite a strong result given the history of the club and given the landscape of rugby league.”

All three levels of government have chipped in to build the new sports centre: $33 million from the NSW government; $15 million from the Commonwealth; more than $10 million from Hills Shire Council; and about $4.5 million from the Eels NRL club.

The club’s new-found success has been on and off the field. The Eels have featured in five of the past six NRL finals series, and made it to this year’s grand final before they were beaten by the Penrith Panthers.

Away from the field, the club’s commercial income is now about $20 million a year, an increase of about 51 per cent from 2019.

Commercial, broadcast income


The club’s commercial income comes mainly from sponsorship, memberships, game-day revenue, merchandise and hospitality.

The Eels NRL club also receives funding via the NRL’s broadcast agreement with Foxtel and Nine, which publishes The Australian Financial Review.

“Thankfully over the past three years, we’ve been able to get ourselves to a position where the football club is profitable in its own right,” Mr Sarantinos said. “So, we’re not dependent on funding from the leagues club for our sustainability.”

The property income from the Kellyville facility will add a third major source of revenue.

The Eels, like many other clubs, had traditionally relied on poker machine income for funding.

But in NSW, Premier Dominic Perrottet is pushing to turn poker machines cashless after the NSW Crime Commission warned they were being used to launder millions of dollars in illegal cash.

The move has generated opposition from clubs and hotels, which rely on poker machine income, and comes less than four months out from the state election.

NSW government data shows that clubs in greater western Sydney house more poker machines and generate more revenue per premise than in other parts of the state.

Parramatta Leagues Club is a major pokie venue, housing about 440 of the approximate 1200 machines in the local government area.

The Eels’ turnaround has been remarkable. In 2016, the Parramatta board was sacked and replaced with an administrator after officials were accused of using inflated invoices to secretly pay players.

By that stage, the Eels already had been fined by the NRL for cheating the salary cap, had competition points deducted and certain officials at the club were deregistered.

The administrators put in place a new structure that allowed the directors of the football club to operate without interference.

NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo, who is negotiating a salary cap with clubs about how much they can spend on players next year, wants each club in the competition to have its own community-based sports centre.

“I think that the Eels leadership, the board, their chairman [Sean McElduff] and CEO [Mr Sarantinos], have done a terrific job. As an NRL club, they have performed well on the field ... and also off the field,” Mr Abdo said.

“Parramatta is in the heartland of Sydney, and all our clubs are community-based clubs and the Eels have done a terrific job of connecting with their community.

“[The Eels’] strategy and mission of diversifying their revenue should be commended.

“Our mission is that every one of our 17 clubs has a fortress, a home stadium, and a centre of excellence for male and female players, boys and girls.

“The Eels centre is an example of a community asset, with community access to green areas and space to play touch, tag and tackle grassroot competitions.”

Clubs that already have centres of excellence include the North Queensland Cowboys, Brisbane Broncos, Wests Tigers, the Panthers and the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles.

The St George Illawarra Dragons, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks are among the NRL teams at various stages of planning to build their own centres.

Boardroom chicanery

The view that NRL teams should be doing more to diversify away from pokies income is shared by Christopher Brown, chairman and founder of the Western Sydney Leadership Dialogue, a regional not-for-profit think tank.

“They’ve shaken up the governance of the club because of the past chicanery in the boardroom,” Mr Brown, a self-confessed Eels tragic, said.

“There’s been a constant reform agenda under the new management and now it’s about their social licence.

“Western Sydney has been the base of rugby league, but for too long it’s been under the shadow of pokies. Other clubs and the league should also be moving towards a better, more sustainable economic future.”

Non-pokie income

Parramatta Leagues Club is also looking to diversify its revenue away from pokies. The club also has its own construction pipeline, including a $5 million project to create a new dining area. The long-term goal is for the leagues club to be seen more as a premium hospitality venue than a pokies den.

The club has also absorbed smaller clubs that might struggle under any potential reforms to poker machine laws. Members of Parramatta Leagues Club will soon vote on a proposal to amalgamate with Dural Country Club.
You should post this in the Eels in the Media thread.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If we replaced all of them with min wage guys we would have 350k +130k to spend. So the question is what's better.
The thing is, just because a player is willing to sign for minimum doesn't mean he is worth minimum. A player worth $100k is worse than useless. A liability if ever used in first grade plus earning $30k more than he's worth. So while you might want a player on minimum, it doesn't mean he's worth it, and there isn't an unlimited supply of players worth $130k. And even if you find one, demand might mean you have to pay overs for him (e.g. $160k).
 

Tooooks

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I'd be re-signing Greig. He's only 23, his best years as a middle are ahead of him and he's getting better each week for mine. This RCG absence might be the making of Greig. I think he may attract interest from plenty of clubs if he hasn't already.
I was thinking the same last night. The fitter he gets and the more he plays the better he looks. 23 is very young, especially for a prop.

Also, Ogden is only 26. He should also be looking at this as a massive opportunity to cement a spot in the 17.
 

Gazzamatta

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I was thinking the same last night. The fitter he gets and the more he plays the better he looks. 23 is very young, especially for a prop.

Also, Ogden is only 26. He should also be looking at this as a massive opportunity to cement a spot in the 17.
Emu often played 60 mins in the 2s.
 

Incorrect

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If another club pays more than we think he's worth it's because he wasn't good enough during the years we observed him. Paying him big money is a risk if he's only playing well when off contract.
Translation - "whatever happens, Parramatta did the right thing."

There's 7 words quoted that you could just copy and paste for eternity... Will save your fingers and keyboard Poupy!! Love yer work all the same....
 

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