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Tiger5150

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So seriously, the Tigers have nobody signed to play in the halves in 2024 at the moment, if they let Doueihi go? That seems... problematic?

you've missed two critical points...

1. Doueihi isnt a half
2. Doueihi wont be playing next year anyway.

New Tigersball...no halves. You can laugh now but what are you guys going to do once it catches on and you have $2M in halves just sitting on the sidelines. Adapt or die.
 

Soren Lorenson

First Grade
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7,563
you've missed two critical points...

1. Doueihi isnt a half
2. Doueihi wont be playing next year anyway.

New Tigersball...no halves. You can laugh now but what are you guys going to do once it catches on and you have $2M in halves just sitting on the sidelines. Adapt or die.
Arsey is a centre and Mattonis a prop. We have been doing it for weeks.
 

Bandwagon

Super Moderator
Staff member
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you've missed two critical points...

1. Doueihi isnt a half
2. Doueihi wont be playing next year anyway.

New Tigersball...no halves. You can laugh now but what are you guys going to do once it catches on and you have $2M in halves just sitting on the sidelines. Adapt or die.

Both our halves can play Apex,

5d checkmate.
 

TheRam

Coach
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Gus is the biggest shit talking Merkin..



He didnt copy the Panfers plan at all..

At the Panfers he signed Maloney a GF winning half from the Roosters to help guide Cleary and Co

Like you said he might throw the kitchen sink at Hunt which would have been a smarter plan than signing Burton/Mahoney/Kikau 2 years ago..

Yeah he is a sh*t talking merkin always has been always will be, but he is also one of the best RL minds to ever be part of the game and one of the most successful. He says and does what he likes because he can and still be successful. He couldn't give a fig what you or I ever say about him. He is the man in the arena and he is being paid handsomely for it and when he finally retires or passes people from all over will honour him and deservedly so.

Look at this point of the Dogs rebirth he will chuck everything in the mix and see what will sticks and say it is all part of his great plan. You will see a turnstile of players coming and going(just like when he was at the Panther in those earlier years) until they start to reap fruit from their junior development programs and new catchment areas that he has setup around the State. But most of all he will need his 'Cleary'(white whale) like player to build a strong roster around.

At the moment that player does not exist. He will need to find one in the juniors somewhere around Australia. If he doesn't get him it could take years for them or any team trying to rebuild from a low base a team capable of winning a premiership until they get at least a Townsend level quality type of half to steer them around and make all the other pieces fit, just like the Cowboys have.

That is why I think he will go hard for Hunt in the offseason. It will shortcut his 5-10 year plan and bide him time to find that 'Cleary' savior type of player.

May that player never come for them and the Dogs burn to dust.

Relocation anyone, anyone?
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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you've missed two critical points...

1. Doueihi isnt a half
2. Doueihi wont be playing next year anyway.

New Tigersball...no halves. You can laugh now but what are you guys going to do once it catches on and you have $2M in halves just sitting on the sidelines. Adapt or die.

But won't the Tigers also have $2M worth of halves not playing? Ie, the ones they haven't signed!!
 

T-Boon

Coach
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15,854
When people watch neutral games do they want to see good attack or dominant defense?
I want to see attack dominating.
One reason is that produces exciting defense. What’s the best tackle everyone has seen this year? Dylan Browns tackle when the opposition attack was all over us.
 

TheRam

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Im not in the slightest convinced that Ben Hunt is the answer to any club in need of a half. Hooker definitely but not a half. Hes plundered millions from St Merge and basically done sfa. As a half I wouldnt touch him with a barge pole.

You have no idea. Hunt is quality at both positions.

Don't mistaken a club run as badly as the Tigers with a stagnating and rotting roster that has been saddled with the wrong type of coaches as Hunt has as not being high end in either position. He has always been a better half then Townsend and Townsend has won a premiership ffs! So that mean, yes Hunt can and would be the answer, but only if he were playing at a club that had it sh*t together like any star half would need.

People just don't think. Biases seem to get in the way to much. Hunt like any other half needs the right environment and players around him. Look at Cleary at SOO level, wrong players and environment and he is a shadow of the player he normally is. He gets owned by a player that no one would suggest is as good as him at club level in DCE.

If SOO were the only games you could assess the two, you wouldn't feed Cleary. But wrapped in his security blanket back at the Panthers and in the structures he is most comfortable with, he is a world beater and can dominate and produce some of the best clutch plays of the last few years.

If you can't see the quality in someone like Hunt and not realise that he is surrounded by so many useless lumps that don't contribute anywhere near enough and in an environment that can't get out of its own rut for years then you are kidding yourself.

Is Hunt the greatest half that ever lived? Of course not, but he is a damned fine one and at the right club and environment he would be in the handful of best halves in the game and more then capable of winning a Premiership if the club he went to was actually setup for success. During his whole time at the Dragons all they have ever been setup for is failure. That isn't Hunts fault and if you think it is, then you are away with the pixies.
 

Avenger

Immortal
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I’d be relocating teams rather than commencing new franchises. The AFL did it successfully for many years and although some diehards won’t cop it the majority embrace it.

There is simply not enough talent. A team in central QLD and Perth should be a priority. Teams that are vulnerable at the moment are the Tigers and Dogs. The Sharks were close but they got their shit together by winning a comp and getting themselves out of financial hardship with their development even though they sold that land for less than market value.
 

TheRam

Coach
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13,884
I’d be relocating teams rather than commencing new franchises. The AFL did it successfully for many years and although some diehards won’t cop it the majority embrace it.

There is simply not enough talent. A team in central QLD and Perth should be a priority. Teams that are vulnerable at the moment are the Tigers and Dogs. The Sharks were close but they got their shit together by winning a comp and getting themselves out of financial hardship with their development even though they sold that land for less than market value.

It should have been done decades ago with massive incentives. It won't happen now since all the clubs get the millions they do in money grants. They would rather limp around for years at the bottom of the table then move elsewhere.

It's dead head old thinking that is very hard to change. It's like Sydney is some magic wonderland that they can't seem to cut the apron strings from and go their own way into the big wide world even if it means living off the crumbs that the big clubs leave behind forever.

If we were a small club and had half the supporters and or juniors, bad location, shit stadium or financially weak, I would be begging we relocate. What's the point in being in a saturated market that we will always be a small fish with once in a couple of decades, if lucky, ability of sustained success versus being in a whole city as the only RL team in town?

The opportunities and potential are almost limitless in a city like Perth or even Christchurch now that they will have a state of the art 25-30K seat stadium with transparent roof in the heart of the city by 2026.

This is also why I was very pissed off that the NRL didn't get together with ARU and Soccer to lobby hard to reverse the decision not to build the new Adelaide indoor city stadium so it could accommodate rectangular football codes like it was first planned and designed to do. Offer a team licence or relocation if they did.

This was the original proposal but the football component was removed in the end siting costs, but you can bet your bottom dollar the AFL white anters got into the ears of the pollies and kyboshed it. No way they wanted a state of the art 22K indoor stadium right in the heart of the city. It would virtually guarantee success for any interloping football code that had a half decent team. People would just turn up just to watch something when they wanted something to do. Tourist would put it on their agenda, a when in Adelaide to do list.

Anyway the ARLC is weak and doesn't have the balls or knowhow to lobby smart and hard for these types of things like the AFL does. As for relocation, ditto. Talks the big talk, but couldn't entice a team to move in a million years.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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15,605
You have no idea. Hunt is quality at both positions.

Don't mistaken a club run as badly as the Tigers with a stagnating and rotting roster that has been saddled with the wrong type of coaches as Hunt has as not being high end in either position. He has always been a better half then Townsend and Townsend has won a premiership ffs! So that mean, yes Hunt can and would be the answer, but only if he were playing at a club that had it sh*t together like any star half would need.

People just don't think. Biases seem to get in the way to much. Hunt like any other half needs the right environment and players around him. Look at Cleary at SOO level, wrong players and environment and he is a shadow of the player he normally is. He gets owned by a player that no one would suggest is as good as him at club level in DCE.

If SOO were the only games you could assess the two, you wouldn't feed Cleary. But wrapped in his security blanket back at the Panthers and in the structures he is most comfortable with, he is a world beater and can dominate and produce some of the best clutch plays of the last few years.

If you can't see the quality in someone like Hunt and not realise that he is surrounded by so many useless lumps that don't contribute anywhere near enough and in an environment that can't get out of its own rut for years then you are kidding yourself.

Is Hunt the greatest half that ever lived? Of course not, but he is a damned fine one and at the right club and environment he would be in the handful of best halves in the game and more then capable of winning a Premiership if the club he went to was actually setup for success. During his whole time at the Dragons all they have ever been setup for is failure. That isn't Hunts fault and if you think it is, then you are away with the pixies.
We may have to agree to disagree on that one Ram. I guess we will see how he goes under Hasler if indeed Hasler persists with him as a 7.
 

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