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Chipmunk

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Semi is the best winger I have seen since Eric Grothe Sr and the best we have had since Eric Grothe Jr.

However I have heard from many people in league circles that he is the most money hungry and unethical player that they have seen in recent memory and for that reason I couldn't give a f**k that he is going. If we coped with Hayne leaving we can cope with anything.

Yes, we've been a Premiership powerhouse since The Plane left haven't we.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Nothing against Semi chasing the money just the way he did it.

Great player but!!

Anyhow it's great how BA/Bernie are now managing the cap, they obviously aren't prepared to f**k the cap on any player. They only offered Hayne a certain amount and now Semi. Clearly want long term consistent success rather then short term.

Let's hope Moeroa accepts our offer rather then chasing the money or he is probably the next to leave.
 

Parra47

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Think everyone is disappointed to see Semi leave. Great player and gave us so much momentum coming out of our 20. He will be missed.
Can't really blame the bloke. I've been to the villages in Fiji, not the tourist attractions but the real villages where they still live on dirt and grass matt floors, no electricity and often no glass in the windows.
I don't know what Semi's upbringing was like or if he grew up in one of the towns or out in the hills, but the Fiji culture is very different to ours and the culture shock he would have undergone when he first came to Parra must have been huge.
He made some poor off field decisions and those have and will cost him. But when he has come from nothing and has had crazy amounts of money offered to him, I can't blame him for thinking of what he could do with that money for his family back in Fiji.
Sensational player, I wish him luck in his new adventure.
 

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The NRL Telstra Premiership is one of the most unpredictable sporting competitions in the world – and yet the writers at NRL.com have put themselves to the test with some educated guesses as to how the 2017 season will play out.

Who will in the comp?
Tony Webeck: I've got a hunch that the Raiders will be the team with the most wins at the end of the regular season and qualify for the grand final but it might be Wayne Bennett's Broncos who sneak up and steal the prize on grand final day. There are some question marks surrounding the Broncs but also a ton of class in every position which in a wide open race could make all the difference.

Chris Kennedy: With the closeness of the comp you could easily nominate six or more teams here but I'll go with Canberra after their excellent 2016 season to go even better.

Dominic Brock: I'll say the Storm. They were very close last season and could/should be even better with Billy Slater back. They've got the best spine, prop and probably coach in the business.

Andy Bryan: Canberra Raiders. Can they continue to improve and hold their nerve in the finals? That remains to be seen – but there is a lot to like about the Green Machine. Their premiership window is wide open, and if they get through the season without many injuries they'll have learnt a lot from the 2016 finals campaign.

Martin Gabor: The Melbourne Storm. Last year's minor premiers went within minutes of grand final glory, and they did it all without star fullback Billy Slater. The 33-year-old is back after missing the best part of two seasons with a shoulder injury and is training the proverbial house down. Throw in the fact they've always finished on top the year after losing a grand final (in 2006 and 2008) and it's clear the Storm will be premiers in 2017.

Adrian McMurray: 2016 was a promising year for the Green Machine, and I'm tipping the Raiders to clinch their first premiership since 1994. The Panthers should also challenge, while the Storm won't be far off either.

Jack Brady: Everybody expected them to win last season following the golden point grand final loss to the Cowboys in 2015 – and while the season is still over three months away I wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos take out the 2017 NRL Telstra Premiership. Corey Parker is a huge loss but it may also positively motivate Wayne Bennett's men to win their way to their first grand final win since 2006.


Wooden spooners?
Tony Webeck: It's obviously a slow build at Newcastle and as much as it pains me to say it for the good and loyal Novocastrians, it might be another 12 months before things go on a significant upward trend.

Chris Kennedy: Sorry to say but it's hard to see the Knights winning enough games to finish better than 16th.

Dominic Brock: Newcastle again, unfortunately.

Andy Bryan: Newcastle will win more games than they did last year, but they are still in for a long tough learning period. There are some great young players coming through, they just need to tough out the next season and things will eventually get better in the Hunter.

Martin Gabor: Sorry Newcastle fans but I think your beloved Knights will claim their third wooden spoon on the trot. In better news, they are bound to win more than one game in 2017.

Adrian McMurray: It'd be easy to pick the Knights as their rebuild continues, but with Drew Hutchison's injury further depleting the Dragons' playmaking stocks, I'm tipping it might be a frustrating year for the Red V.

Jack Brady: I think Newcastle may cop one more wooden spoon before they start finding their feet again in the NRL. Things are looking up in the Hunter but it's hard to think of any club they may finish ahead of.


Dally M winner?
Tony Webeck: It would be easy to pick Cronk or Thurston (and you'd probably be right) but if James Tedesco has a full season injury free he'll be a regular vote-getter for the Wests Tigers.

Chris Kennedy: Josh Hodgson or Corey Norman.

Dominic Brock: The Storm again look likely to get the most wins this season, and with Cooper Cronk winning it last year I'll go Cameron Smith for 2017.

Andy Bryan: The usual candidates are Cam Smith, Johnathan Thurston and Cooper Cronk. But I'll go left field and say Mitchell Pearce. The Roosters will be much improved this year and Pearce will be in the thick of the action.

Martin Gabor: Matt Moylan. The Panthers skipper just keeps getting better and better with age and I can see him dominating the field with 31 votes next year.

Adrian McMurray: Matt Moylan. If Penrith are in for a big year, their skipper will be key.

Jack Brady: I think Raiders hooker Josh Hodgson will live up to the billing in 2017 especially if Canberra can replicate their amazing past 12 months moving forward.


Top try-scorer?
Tony Webeck: Can I just say they will be of Fijian heritage? Suliasi Vunivalu ahead of Semi Radradra.

Chris Kennedy: Jordan Rapana?

Dominic Brock: Jordan Rapana will probably start as the favourite for this but I'll go Bevan French. The guy is made for scoring rugby league tries and should get more game time this year, plus the Eels should be better.

Andy Bryan: I think the Eels will do well this year, so looking at Bevan French to score a lot of tries in blue and gold.

Martin Gabor: Jordan Rapana will take home the title with 24 tries next season, with James Tedesco and Blake Ferguson in equal-second with 19 four-pointers. Bevan French will score 17 tries.

Adrian McMurray: After making the move south to the Storm, I'm tipping Josh Addo-Carr to lead the try-scorers tally.

Jack Brady: If Bevan French can produce a whole season at the Eels then I envision him taking out the mantle.

Who will win State of Origin?
Tony Webeck: Two games at Suncorp? That's reason enough alone to pick the Maroons again in 2017.

Chris Kennedy: The new-look Blues will finally start to claw that dominance back.

Dominic Brock: Queensland. Two games at home and they're the better team if they're close to full strength.

Andy Bryan: Queensland still have the team to beat, and while the gap gets closer they'll find a way to win in the big moments. This champion side is not done yet.

Martin Gabor: The Maroons have won 10 of the past 11 series and play two matches at Suncorp Stadium in 2017. That makes them morals, right? Wrong. The Blues' last two series victories came when they travelled to the Cauldron twice, and I'm tipping their new breed to get the job done. In addition, the last two times I went overseas (in 2005 and 2014) NSW hoisted the shield, and odds are I will travel again in 2017. My pleasure, Blues fans.

Adrian McMurray: NSW. An injection of youth in 2016 did wonders for Laurie Daley's side. Throw Jarryd Hayne back into the mix as well as massive competition for places across the board and you get the sense it's time for the shield to head south.

Jack Brady: Queensland will take one more for the road before the older blokes start heading for the retirement home. Maroons 2-1.


Origin bolters/debutants?
Tony Webeck: I'd have Jake Trbojevic making the first of what will be many Origin appearances for NSW in Game One and if Ryan James continues his upward trajectory the Blues could use his size and aggression up front. I wouldn't expect too many changes for the Maroons other than the inclusion of Dylan Napa and quite possibly Coen Hess from the Cowboys.

Chris Kennedy: The Trbojevic brothers are shoo-ins for the Blues. Shannon Boyd is a chance but his position is pretty stacked. Val Holmes is all but guaranteed and Dylan Napa is also a strong chance for Queensland. Bryce Cartwright and Tyrone Peachey are chances for NSW but with plenty of competition for spots. Nathan Cleary is the bolter, the only question is whether 2017 is his year or if he has to wait 'til 2018.

Dominic Brock: Jake Trbojevic to come in for the Blues, and Valentine Holmes and Dylan Napa to get a run for the Maroons.

Andy Bryan: As far as bolters go, obviously a look at the emerging squads is a big hint – while I think talk of mercurial talent Nathan Cleary is a little premature there are plenty of players on the cusp who could be considered 'bolters' in sky blue. The Trbojevic brothers must be real close…

Martin Gabor: Nathan Cleary will be an Origin player for many years to come, so why not blood him now? The Panthers halfback has handled every challenge thrown his way and wouldn't look out of place in a sky blue jersey. Dylan Napa looks likely to earn a Maroons debut, with Valentine Holmes another possible inclusion in Kevin Walters's side.

Adrian McMurray: At least one of the Trbojevic brothers should make their NSW debut, with Jake the front-runner after already representing Australia. I'd imagine Ryan James would come into calculations somewhere, along with Bryce Cartwright and Kangaroo Shannon Boyd. Joey Leilua might force his way into a stacked backline as well. As for Queensland, Dylan Napa and Valentine Holmes should get their chance at some point during the series.

Jack Brady: Jake Trbojevic, Shannon Boyd and Valentine Holmes should go very close to earning Origin debuts considering the roles they played in Australia's Four Nations victory over New Zealand. I'd also expect Dylan Napa to be there in Origin I following his year in exile.
 

Gronk

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Name the NSW backline
Tony Webeck: James Tedesco, Brett Morris, Michael Jennings, Jack Bird, Blake Ferguson, James Maloney, Adam Reynolds.

Chris Kennedy: 1. Tedesco 2. Ferguson 3. Leilua/Dugan 4. Hayne/Jennings 5. Trbojevic 6. Moylan 7. Maloney (14. J Bird). Tedesco has to play fullback. If Ferguson continues his Four Nations form he's an auto-pick but I'd prefer a specialist over Dugan at centre. The winning halves combo from 2016 Game Three stays but Nathan Cleary is bashing on the door (with Adam Reynolds and Mitch Pearce also in the frame). Hayne will need to show he's still got what it takes, and Leilua that he can keep it up in the first 10 weeks of 2017 otherwise the likes of Jarrod Croker, Michael Jennings and James Roberts come into contention. Josh Mansour's injury opens the door for Tom Trbojevic but I'm not writing off Brett Morris.

Dominic Brock: 1. James Tedesco 2. Blake Ferguson 3. Josh Dugan 4. Jarryd Hayne 5. Josh Mansour/Brett Morris 6. Matt Moylan 7. James Maloney. I personally think Mitchell Pearce makes more sense in the halves than Moylan but I reckon NSW will stick with the halves combination from Game Three last year.

Andy Bryan: 1. Tedesco, 2. Ferguson, 3. Dugan, 4. Hayne, 5. Mansour, 6. Maloney, 7. Pearce. I think Moylan will be in the team somewhere, so pencil him in on the bench. Hayne has proven he can play and star at centre and I think Tedesco has to play in the No.1. If Pearce is back to his best, he's the best choice for No.7 with Maloney at 6.

Martin Gabor: 1. James Tedesco 2. Blake Ferguson 3. Josh Dugan 4. Jarryd Hayne 5. Josh Mansour/Brett Morris 6. James Maloney 7. Nathan Cleary.

Adrian McMurray: 1. James Tedesco, 2. Blake Ferguson, 3. Josh Dugan, 4. Joey Leilua, 5. Jarryd Hayne, 6. James Maloney, 7. Mitchell Pearce. Despite the myriad fullbacks available for selection, I'm tipping Tedesco to retain his spot at the back. Ferguson and Dugan should continue their Kangaroos combination, while Leilua and Hayne would form a potent combination on the other edge. Mitchell Pearce's return would force Matt Moylan to the bench in this scenario.

Jack Brady: 1. James Tedesco, 2. Jarryd Hayne, 3. Josh Dugan, 4. Michael Jennings, 5. Blake Ferguson, 6. Matt Moylan, 7. James Maloney.

Which team will be the biggest improver?
Tony Webeck: Do the Eels count? They're a definite top-eight team for mine. Outside of that, expect a BIG bounce back from the Roosters.

Chris Kennedy: In terms of form/wins, the Roosters. Ladder-wise, Eels.

Dominic Brock: The Roosters will jump from 15th to a finals spot – they're just too good not to and will be desperate to bounce back from last year's derailed season.

Andy Bryan: In terms of games won, Newcastle will improve the most. But as far as ladder position, the Roosters will make the biggest jump after a disastrous 2016 campaign.

Martin Gabor: The Roosters won't finish 15th again any time soon. The Tricolours were aiming for their fourth straight minor premiership last season, but a combination of ill-discipline, injuries and a string of narrow losses had them rooted near the bottom of the ladder from the get-go. They will be much better in 2017 – maybe even a top-four side.

Adrian McMurray: You'd imagine the Roosters will make the biggest move up the ladder, while the Eels and Rabbitohs should also be in for a much better season.

Jack Brady: The Parramatta Eels. Obviously salary cap dramas ruined their 2016 season as they looked to make the top eight for the first time since 2009. The Eels will make the top eight in 2017.

Which team will slide the furthest?
Tony Webeck: It will be one of Des Hasler's finest accomplishments if he can get the Bulldogs to the finals again and I think the Sharks' premiership hangover will hit hard and see them finish outside the top four at the very least.

Chris Kennedy: Sharks. They've lost Ennis, their forward pack is a year older, plus the premiership hangover. I can't see them making top four, nor past the second week of finals.

Dominic Brock: I enjoy watching the Wests Tigers and they came within a whisker of a top-eight finish last season but could struggle to match that this year with some big clubs set to leapfrog them on the ladder.

Andy Bryan: The Sharks still have a very competitive team, but have the potential to drop a few places after finally getting that monkey off their back with premiership glory. The loss of Ennis and Barba are big holes.

Martin Gabor: The loss of Benji Marshall and Mitch Rein, plus the potentially season-ending injury to Drew Hutchinson, point to a tough year for the Dragons. They have struggled to score points for a number of seasons and that won't be made any easier with the attacking triumvirate not there in 2017. They finished 11th last season, and I've got them dropping down to 15th.

Adrian McMurray: It might not be the best year for the Bulldogs, Dragons and Wests Tigers.

Jack Brady: Off-season dramas at the Bulldogs wouldn't have helped their cause but even then they'll surely struggle to break into the eight in 2017. Things need to change dramatically in terms of their attack if they're going to mix it with the best teams. With pressure mounting on coach Des Hasler, it'll be interesting to see how his players respond.

Best recruit of 2017?
Tony Webeck: For the game's sake I hope it is Jamal Idris at the Wests Tigers but Robbie Farah's arrival at the Rabbitohs has the ability to turn them into premiership threats almost overnight if Greg Inglis, Sam Burgess and Adam Reynolds have big years.

Chris Kennedy: I tipped Kieran Foran in this category last year so I'm reluctant to double down on him but if he gets it together he could end up being the answer for the Warriors that he wasn't for Parramatta. Kevin Proctor to Titans, Blake Green to Manly, Jamie Buhrer to Knights and Nathan Brown to Eels are all great buys but I think I'll take James Tamou to be buy of the year at Penrith following Trent Merrin's outrageous form last season.

Dominic Brock: Kieran Foran to the Warriors, if he plays, or James Tamou boosting an already strong-looking Panthers side.

Andy Bryan: A few contenders here. If Kieran Foran is fit and healthy and is in a good space, then he has the potential to be a game-changer for the Warriors. Blake Green will also provide Manly with a key that has been missing since Foran left the Sea Eagles.

Martin Gabor: If he plays, Kieran Foran shapes as the most important signing in Warriors history. The classy five-eighth would be the perfect foil for Shaun Johnson in the halves and would almost certainly help them end their five-year finals hiatus.

Adrian McMurray: James Tamou. Exactly the leader a young Panthers pack needs.

Jack Brady: It's hard to split between James Tamou (Panthers) and Blake Green (Sea Eagles). While obviously their careers have had completely different trajectories, their importance to their new clubs is paramount. Tamou is the final piece to an already entertaining puzzle at the Panthers as they reaffirm their premiership credentials. Green's presence will help settle Daly Cherry-Evans into the new-look Manly team following the star halfback's mixed 2016 season.
 
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Most underrated signing?
Tony Webeck: David Mead at the Broncos. They got him dirt-cheap on a one-year deal but his experience and professionalism will be so valuable to what is still essentially a young backline. I know he's a winger, but his early carries will set the tone the Broncos need to play an up-tempo game in 2017.

Chris Kennedy: I tipped Clint Gutherson last season which I'm happy with. None of the following names are even guaranteed first grade spots but if they go well any of Zac Woolford (Raiders to Dogs), Shaun Lane (Warriors to Manly) or Jahrome Hughes (Cowboys to Storm) get the chance to impress they could well do exactly that.

Dominic Brock: With class, experience and a cool head, Blake Green looks like being exactly what the Sea Eagles needed. If he can take some pressure off Daly Cherry-Evans in the same way he did for Cooper Cronk last year, Manly will be thrilled. They'll also be pleasantly surprised with Akuila Uate if he gets more than the handful of scoring chances he got at Newcastle in recent seasons (even if the Knights got the better end of the Uate/Buhrer swap deal).

Andy Bryan: I'm going to go under the radar with the Knights duo of Jamie Buhrer and Rory Kostjasyn. They won't change the Knights' results overnight, but they are important signings to start building the Knights' roster and helping the young players coming through. Judged over the course of one season, this will not be the case, but over the next two-to-four years, they could prove great pick-ups.

Martin Gabor: The loss of Marika Koroibete on the Storm's left edge cannot be understated, but in Josh Addo-Carr the minor premiers have a more than handy replacement. His speed and genuine finishing-ability could spell trouble for opposition defences as they try to handle Melbourne's set plays.

Adrian McMurray: Jarrod Wallace. Was given few chances to shine as part of a star-studded Broncos pack, and should go to the next level at the Titans alongside front-row partner Ryan James.

Jack Brady: Lose Lachlan Maranta and Greg Eden and replace them with David Mead? That's a huge win for the Broncos. Frank Pritchard's return to the NRL after a year sabbatical will breed only positives for the Eels. Before Pritchard left for Hull KR last year, he produced perhaps one of his finest seasons in the NRL at the Bulldogs. I expect Robbie Rochow to come into his own at the Rabbitohs in 2017 too, pending he's able to finally move past his recent injury woes.

http://www.nrl.com/nrlcoms-fearless-2017-predictions-part-1/tabid/10874/newsid/103048/default.aspx
 
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The only reason he's not pissing off tomorrow is cos Bernster wont let him
Agree.

If injuries to key players, or just shithouse form across the board from the team sees us out of Finals reckoning two thirds in to the season, look for Semi to go ona couple of mercy dashes to Fiji and seek time out again and ask for an early release hoping to hook up with Toulon by August...
 

hineyrulz

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Agree.

If injuries to key players, or just shithouse form across the board from the team sees us out of Finals reckoning two thirds in to the season, look for Semi to go ona couple of mercy dashes to Fiji and seek time out again and ask for an early release hoping to hook up with Toulon by August...
Or he could just behave like a shit merkin like Junior Paulo to secure an early release, I love how they all claim to love the club and the fans. They love the club as long as we are willing to pay them the most.
 

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