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Stevie

Bench
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Seems to be from what I am hearing Brown may be used as a back rower and Frank Pritchard prop. Matagi impressing massively I have heard.
 

Noise

Coach
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Seems to be from what I am hearing Brown may be used as a back rower and Frank Pritchard prop. Matagi impressing massively I have heard.

He'll be playing in the middle, whether it's 'prop' or 'lock'. With Mau, Scott, Tepai, Edwards (court case pending) and even Fritchard having experience on the edges Brown will be in the middle
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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6,332
Afualo has been playing up age groups right the way through. Still two more years at NYC level (even though the comp
Is disappearing) but I think we have made the right choice at this stage.

Tui has 3 year left in the under 20's. He only turns 18 this year (which means he's still eligible for SG ball). He's also been man of the match for NSW in both representative games he's played for them. Huge talent for us. It's a shame RLW47 doesn't know about him. Obviously there hasn't been a write up on young Tui in one of his magazines yet. No doubt when there is and he mentions his name he'll be the one to take all of the congrats about discovering him.
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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6,332
He'll be playing in the middle, whether it's 'prop' or 'lock'. With Mau, Scott, Tepai, Edwards (court case pending) and even Fritchard having experience on the edges Brown will be in the middle

He may have a few plays where we line him up on the edge close to the line as he is quite quick but for the most part he will be playing in the middle.
 

Ivor

Juniors
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81
A player who regularly creates tries and linebreaks for others.

Do tries and line-breaks have to be involved? Couldn't a playmaker simply create attacking plays (on a regular basis) without them leading to either tries or line-breaks? Or, as Garry Gutful said, a playmaker could be an organiser of the team's attack and therefore, in a sense, direct the team around the park. I think defining 'playmaker' is like defining 'love' - everybody thinks they know what it means, but .......
 

Gary Gutful

Post Whore
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I think defining 'playmaker' is like defining 'love' - everybody thinks they know what it means, but .......

What is Playmaker?

Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more...

What is Playmaker?

Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more...

Wowooowooowooowooowooowoowooowo aaaahhhh ahhhh
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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Do tries and line-breaks have to be involved?
I think so. Otherwise he's not really making a play, is he? More like he's attempting to.
Couldn't a playmaker simply create attacking plays (on a regular basis) without them leading to either tries or line-breaks? Or, as Garry Gutful said, a playmaker could be an organiser of the team's attack and therefore, in a sense, direct the team around the park.
Playmaking involved a specific set of skills that cause breaches in the opposition defensive line or tryline. Usually they are halves but many hookers, fullbacks, and even some centres and forwards are good playmakers.

As for steering the team around the park, or whatever you want to call it, that requires the ability to make decisions and communicate, but doesn't necessarily require the running, passing and kicking skills that lead to big plays. A bloke who passes at the right time to a better playmaker might be valuable (like IDG and plenty of other hookers) but they are not themselves playmakers. Not by the definition I (and many others) understand anyway.

I think defining 'playmaker' is like defining 'love' - everybody thinks they know what it means, but .......
It's like a vagina, I reckon. I couldn't describe one, but I would know one if I saw it. Probably.
 

bartman

Immortal
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I'd agree that Hayne attempts to be a playmaker... on occasion, when he's not bludging out the back or on the wing and actually gets involved in the play.
 
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