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JokerEel

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Do,you actually watch footy, because pretending the 3 you mention as excelling in reserve grade is a massive overstatement. They were ordinary at best, and mostly making up the numbers, you should stop making opposing statements just to argue.
Talk to anyone that watched that grade and you would know that they just didn’t matter.

Will any of those 3 play in NSW cup this year?

Cini maybe now Dick is out for the season and Sivo is suspended for 3 weeks promoting Harper.

The other 2 I doubt get a look in unless the club plays some of our Juniors in Flegg instead of CUP.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Do,you actually watch footy, because pretending the 3 you mention as excelling in reserve grade is a massive overstatement. They were ordinary at best, and mostly making up the numbers, you should stop making opposing statements just to argue.
Talk to anyone that watched that grade and you would know that they just didn’t matter.
We didn't sign any of them last year, so last year's form is irrelevant. You need to look at their form when we signed them. Don't pretend you watched Cini at Wests in 2021, Taumoepenu at Souths (also 2021) and Momoisea at the Knights in 2022. These players all excelled in those years, which is why they are in our top 30. That they were worse in our reserve grade team last year means nothing as far as whether they should've been signed.

In any case, Cini was excellent last year in reserve grade as well. Maybe he can't translate his reserve grade form to NRL performance but you're bullshitting to say he was making up the numbers. He was one of the best outside backs in NSW Cup for tackle breaks and run metres. Given they were good enough when we signed them, I'd say the reason they are getting the rissole is because they are poor trainers, not because they can't play.
 

Tiger5150

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We didn't sign any of them last year, so last year's form is irrelevant. You need to look at their form when we signed them. Don't pretend you watched Cini at Wests in 2021, Taumoepenu at Souths (also 2021) and Momoisea at the Knights in 2022. These players all excelled in those years, which is why they are in our top 30. That they were worse in our reserve grade team last year means nothing as far as whether they should've been signed.

In any case, Cini was excellent last year in reserve grade as well. Maybe he can't translate his reserve grade form to NRL performance but you're bullshitting to say he was making up the numbers. He was one of the best outside backs in NSW Cup for tackle breaks and run metres. Given they were good enough when we signed them, I'd say the reason they are getting the rissole is because they are poor trainers, not because they can't play.

The great and powerful Zac Cini...
 

JokerEel

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We didn't sign any of them last year, so last year's form is irrelevant. You need to look at their form when we signed them. Don't pretend you watched Cini at Wests in 2021, Taumoepenu at Souths (also 2021) and Momoisea at the Knights in 2022. These players all excelled in those years, which is why they are in our top 30. That they were worse in our reserve grade team last year means nothing as far as whether they should've been signed.

In any case, Cini was excellent last year in reserve grade as well. Maybe he can't translate his reserve grade form to NRL performance but you're bullshitting to say he was making up the numbers. He was one of the best outside backs in NSW Cup for tackle breaks and run metres. Given they were good enough when we signed them, I'd say the reason they are getting the rissole is because they are poor trainers, not because they can't play.

f**k off they are poor trainers and can actually play 😂 You have to be taking the Piss now.

There is a reason no one saw those 3 play prior to coming to us... They were all shit.

Cini was at the Sharks btw in the offseason before we some how wrangled him away from the Sharks.
 

Poupou Escobar

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f**k off they are poor trainers and can actually play 😂 You have to be taking the Piss now.
Momoisea and Taumoepenu made 100+ metres per game at their old clubs. At Parra they found themselves with limited minutes. Did they suddenly forget how to run the ball? They obviously didn’t have the right attitude for our coaching staff.
There is a reason no one saw those 3 play prior to coming to us... They were all shit.
They were all in reserve grade, where backups spend most of their time.
Cini was at the Sharks btw in the offseason before we some how wrangled him away from the Sharks.
So did they let him go because he can’t play or because they saw him train? They had already seen him play when they invited him to preseason. It was obviously the training that got him the arse.
 

JokerEel

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Momoisea and Taumoepenu made 100+ metres per game at their old clubs. At Parra they found themselves with limited minutes. Did they suddenly forget how to run the ball? They obviously didn’t have the right attitude for our coaching staff.

They were all in reserve grade, where backups spend most of their time.

So did they let him go because he can’t play or because they saw him train? They had already seen him play when they invited him to preseason. It was obviously the training that got him the arse.


Going to have to see these stats of 100+ meters per game 😂

Fairly sure Jirah started in the NRL side in round 1 is that a backup? Or did we just hope to find the next Ice?

No way these guys are bad trainers have you not read TCT pre season reports? Everyone trained the house down!

They are just shit everyone can see it the club finally can see it they should not have been signed won't be re-signed and probably won't get another First grade gig again.


For some reason you are the Only one that can't see that they are shit and I'll leave it at that.
 

TheCrowe

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Taumoepenu is the only one I haven't seen play.
I saw a bit of Momo at the Knights and he actually looked like he had some potential. When I heard we had signed him I wasn't unhappy.
When I first saw Cini play for us in Cup in 2022 I was actually pretty impressed. He showed a lot of energy and effort.
For whatever reason both dropped off in 23. Have to be a bit sus on the coaching. Both seemed to lose confidence.
Hands was showing little in Cup but once he came into firsts he stepped up and showed us what he can do.
The whole cup team went backwards last year.
 

JokerEel

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Taumoepenu is the only one I haven't seen play.
I saw a bit of Momo at the Knights and he actually looked like he had some potential. When I heard we had signed him I wasn't unhappy.
When I first saw Cini play for us in Cup in 2022 I was actually pretty impressed. He showed a lot of energy and effort.
For whatever reason both dropped off in 23. Have to be a bit sus on the coaching. Both seemed to lose confidence.
Hands was showing little in Cup but once he came into firsts he stepped up and showed us what he can do.
The whole cup team went backwards last year.

FFS it's because they don't train hard enough have you not been listening to Pou!

Cup team went backwards as there was no consistency in positions. Jirah played 5/8 at one stage..Cini Fullback.

They started to play well in the back end with players in their known positions.

Looking forward to game 1 next week and seeing how Cayless goes at coach again.
 

TheCrowe

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FFS it's because they don't train hard enough have you not been listening to Pou!

Cup team went backwards as there was no consistency in positions. Jirah played 5/8 at one stage..Cini Fullback.

They started to play well in the back end with players in their known positions.

Looking forward to game 1 next week and seeing how Cayless goes at coach
There were a lot of injuries and suspensions last year. They were calling up RM Cup players through the year.
Cayless will definitely be under scrutiny this year with the new batch of young players coming through.
We really are putting our future in his hands this year.
Would have liked to have seen the team list for the trials.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Going to have to see these stats of 100+ meters per game 😂
Cini 178m per game the year before joining Parra: https://www.parraeels.com.au/teams/nsw-cup/parramatta-eels-nsw-cup/zac-cini

Momoisea 100m per game: https://www.parraeels.com.au/teams/nsw-cup/parramatta-eels-nsw-cup/jirah-momoisea

Taumoepenu 106m per game: https://www.parraeels.com.au/teams/nsw-cup/parramatta-eels-nsw-cup/tevita-taumoepenu
Fairly sure Jirah started in the NRL side in round 1 is that a backup?
It is if we had top 17 players missing. In round one we had Matterson and Lane unavailable. Doorey started at edge forward (alongside Cartwright) with Momoisea and Murchie on the bench. As soon as Lane and Matterson returned, those backups went back to NSW Cup.
Or did we just hope to find the next Ice?
Papali'i was a 22 year old with 60+ NRL games. Momoisea was 24 with 8 NRL games. The former is the profile of a high potential prospect. The latter is just a backup.
No way these guys are bad trainers have you not read TCT pre season reports? Everyone trained the house down!
TCT are part of 'the media'. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. They're hardly going to put shit on the club or players.
They are just shit everyone can see it the club finally can see it they should not have been signed won't be re-signed and probably won't get another First grade gig again.
That's up to the players. If they give up then yes, their careers will be over. But there's 17 clubs and not enough NRL players to fill the 510 top 30 slots. There will always be nuffies on full time contracts. Merkins said Jake Arthur would never play NRL anywhere else and they were wrong. Every club needs backups.
For some reason you are the Only one that can't see that they are shit and I'll leave it at that.
No I can see their reserve grade form was poor in 2023. The stats prove it. But I'm the only one who can see their form was good when we signed them. So while you're confused about why we brought them to the club, I am not. I'll leave it at that.
 

Tiger5150

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You need to look at their form when we signed them. Don't pretend you watched Cini at Wests in 2021, ...........SNIP.............These players all excelled in those years, which is why they are in our top 30.

In any case, Cini was excellent last year in reserve grade as well. Maybe he can't translate his reserve grade form to NRL performance but you're bullshitting to say he was making up the numbers. He was one of the best outside backs in NSW Cup for tackle breaks and run metres. Given they were good enough when we signed them, I'd say the reason they are getting the rissole is because they are poor trainers, not because they can't play.

Hang on , hang on, hang on.....Zac Cini excelled at the Tigers in 2021? the year he played 4 games in first grade and got dropped back to reggies each time? The same Zac Cini that we just let go at the end of the season? THAT Zac Cini excelled at "Wests" in 2021? Same Zac Cini that after "excelling" at Wests has bummed around in Parra Reggies for two years? THAT Zac Cini?
 

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