Rumours and Stuff

[Eelementary]

With Matto being told he is staying our pack is looking ok for next year with everyone back from injury..

Barlow
Hands
Joffa
Kelma
Carty (would like Guymer to get a go with a off-season)
Hopgood

Gutho?
Matto
Lane
Guymer

Leo Thompson would be a good get from the Knights..

Not a fan of Kelma at all, tbh.

And Cartwright has regressed.


Matto has routinely been one of our better performers - he starts over Cartwright, or Tuilagi, imo.

 

[hineyrulz]

And not played out in the media. What's changed?

Hopgood showing he’s a real leader, it’s refreshing unlike a lot of his senior players.

 

[lucablight]

What? Data is evidence.

The truth lies in the interpretation of the data. It is not evidence in of itself.

 

[Stagger eel]

alot of chatter at this function I went to last night points to a deal being close to done.

 

[Gronk]

Hopefully the usual suspects can refrain from throwing rocks at TCT for this post.

Anyway, from the latest pod, they reckon that the bunnies 7 Dean Hawkins is coming.

They also talk about the possibility of a bulldogs utility who could play 14 if needed. Who could that be ? Gus has eleventy utilities.

 

[Stagger eel]

well I wouldn't imagine it's Kurt Mann?

 

[Glenn]

Hopefully the usual suspects can refrain from throwing rocks at TCT for this post.

Anyway, from the latest pod, they reckon that the bunnies 7 Dean Hawkins is coming.

They also talk about the possibility of a bulldogs utility who could play 14 if needed. Who could that be ? Gus has eleventy utilities.

Jaeman Salmon

 

[Avenger]

Jaeman Salmon

I’d be taking him before any of the others.

 

[Glenn]

I’d be taking him before any of the others.

Absolutely ...hopefully JR is of the same opinion.

 

[Avenger]

Hopgood showing he’s a real leader, it’s refreshing unlike a lot of his senior players.

Gutherson, I’m certain will extend at a better rate for us and be part of the coaching set up once he retires.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Gutherson, I’m certain will extend at a better rate for us and be part of the coaching set up once he retires.

You were convinced he was leaving a week ago

 

[Avenger]

You were convinced he was leaving a week ago

I thought he would be tapped, yes.

 

[emjaycee]

Matterson has been tapped to stay by Ryles.
Gutherson has been tapped to stay by Ryles.

Ryles has total control over the NRL player squad moving forward and who he wants to buy, retain and release.
Just as the previous incumbent did.

 

[Stagger eel]

you've also got to consider that a Ryles tap is more a swinging arm across the jaw

 

[Avenger]

Matterson has been tapped to stay by Ryles.
Gutherson has been tapped to stay by Ryles.

Ryles has total control over the NRL player squad moving forward and who he wants to buy, retain and release.
Just as the previous incumbent did.

 

[JokerEel]

It’s f**king embarrassing. It’s not like there isn’t ample better run professional competitions to try and emulate

I just noticed the Cowboys only play the Storm once every year ... While we get to face them multiple times ...

NRL is run to keep certain people happy...

 

[JokerEel]

Not a fan of Kelma at all, tbh.

And Cartwright has regressed.


Matto has routinely been one of our better performers - he starts over Cartwright, or Tuilagi, imo.

I am a fan of Kelma runs a hard line just needs to get better at defense.

Agree on Carty I have always said he is a bench player at best.

 

[84 Baby]

I just noticed the Cowboys only play the Storm once every year ... While we get to face them multiple times ...

NRL is run to keep certain people happy...

Hey! They’ve got super fancy software that figures it out for them

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Thats not evidence. That’s data. You haven’t explained why we’ve won 10 finals matches in 22 years. I can tell you that it’s not because of some inherent trait that is being the Parramatta Eels.

Imagine if Penrith sat around after their 2020 grand final loss and said we’ve won 7 finals matches since our last premiership in 2003. A club like ours just doesn’t win finals matches let alone premierships anymore. With retrospect you would agree that it would have been a laughable mindset to take after what they ended up achieving. Your interpretation of the data is shallow at best. You’re saying correlation doesn’t equal causation but that’s what you’re literally doing.

My personal opinion to explain the data is that the club has been mismanaged by the different groups of people in charge for a long time and we have not taken advantage of the resources to win a premiership. 2010-2016 especially were wasted years which is going to skew the data significantly towards not winning finals matches. It’s mismanagement and not some inherent trait like you’re suggesting. Here’s hoping the Ryles regime does a better job.

Management is itself a resource, and when it stems from the club’s ‘ownership’ structure it is indeed inherent.

Just like the Panthers, we made a huge change. But where they went out and got a huge funding injection from James Packer, we changed our constitution to increase stability on our boards. The result is that in the previous 22 years (an arbitrary number based on the 11 that people think is so relevant), we won 6 finals matches in the first 18 years and 4 in the most recent 6 years since the change in management structure. 2024 is the outlier in this recent period of strength. Years before 2018 don’t belong to the current board. Dumping it on the coach is just scapegoating. He is only the coach, but his record (including finals) since 2019 proves his quality. His record pre-2019 was due to being at a weak club.

 

[TheCrowe]

Joel Thompson retired a while ago didn't he?

Tyrone Thompson is his brother who is on a development deal at the Knights next season.