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Poupou Escobar

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Agree with your first paragraph.

Disagree with your second. He became a highly rated jnr while he was at the club. Played in our local comp, family of Eels supporters. I think it's a combo of he came into first grade a year before we expected him to and so we never expected demand for him, and we got a bit lazy and never thought he would actually go.

We may still come out on top though because the last thing we need right now is defensively fragile centers and that is where we would have been forced to play him.
Just because a kid comes through your local comp or even plays in your junior rep teams doesn’t mean you get to avoid market forces and don’t have to compete with demand from other clubs.
 

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Are you sure we did? Maybe a bit of slight of hand to appease the fans. Maybe Hodgson was always the plan?
We had just come off a two point finals loss to the eventual premiers. There was no need to ‘appease the fans’. Spags wasn’t looming with any sort of EGM threat, and we were expected to do well in the upcoming 2022 season. And we did.
 

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The polka dot jersey? TCT said that it's a training award thing and the jerseys are handed out blah blah announcements soon.
 

Poupou Escobar

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So now the Broncos aren't well resourced?

Never go full Pou.
All NRL clubs are ‘well resourced’ in the sense of them being able to run without going broke. But resourcing from the perspective of gaining a competitive advantage is the conversation we’re having here.

The Broncos have some geographic resources. Until recently they were the only team in Brisbane, for example. And we used to hear a lot about the Thoroughbreds, a massive resource most clubs don’t seem to have any equivalent of. What’s happened to them anyway? Was Paul Morgan the one holding them together?
 

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It depends what day of the week it is....
Discussion of valuable NFL franchises has led me to reconsider the resourcing at the Broncos. Value can come from just reducing operating costs. In that way, value is the opposite of resources. Like how Manly went broke after winning their last two premierships. They’ve never really recovered as a premiership force. Spent so much resources they ran out, the poor merkins.
 

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You’ve just placed adhoc obstacles to what I said in order to support your narrative. If you’re going to claim the value of a business has no correlation with resourcing capability the onus is on YOU to show that.
I showed you how. The Cowboys being the most valuable doesn’t say anything about whether they spend the most on football operations.
Occam’s razor tells you that the value of a business means they have more resources. That’s nothing bold or outrageous.
No but directing those resources to improve the chance of winning competitions could become unsustainable and lead to a loss of value in a sporting business. This is one of the stated purposes of salary caps and other mechanisms such as FIFA’s financial fair play regulations.
What’s ridiculous is arbitrarily claiming that high value businesses only exist in that form because they’re cheap and hire minimal staff (without any evidence to support this).
I never said anything about them being cheap or hiring minimal staff. That’s hyperbole you made up. They just don’t need to get involved in a financial arms race of diminishing returns to increase their chances of winning a Super Bowl. If they are satisfied with their chances of winning in a given year then that is enough for them. Sustainability is a core tenet of business.
Also your claim about there every team in the NFL having a 1 in 32 chance isn’t supported by the data either. Thats assuming every team starts off with an equal chance (which is just wrong).
I told you it assumed a level playing field, and I’m sure we agree that it isn’t, just like in the NRL. But to work out how many competitions a team should expect to win in a given time period you need to start with the average, which is one in the number of teams in the competition. Anything else is just sports nerds fixating on outliers.
For starters the NBA and NFL have a conference system which means you only have to finish at a certain position relative to the other teams in your conference. One conference is usually stronger than the other as well. In fact in the NBA you can finish as low as 10th out of 16 teams and theoretically win the whole thing. Thats more leeway than 8th out of 17 teams.
Yep, sports nerds fixating on outliers.
Also you don’t just get to assume onfield results are directly correlated with resourcing. Do you think the Tigers have been the poorest NRL club for the past three seasons? I would say decision making is a just as much of if not more important factor.
Their decision making resources may indeed be poor, just as ours have been for most of the past 38 years. But if they had more financial resources they would get better people wanting to be involved.

You will also find that there is a strong community around the governance structure of some clubs (including ours) and these communities can be very insular and uninviting to quality operators who might be able to make a difference. It’s why Max Donnelly included provisions to exclude the community of Parramatta Leagues club powerbrokers from the board of our NRL club. Spagnolo’s recent EGM was an attempt to get this community back in control. The Tigers likely suffer from the same outdated community link. Clubs need to serve their fans, but as customers. They shouldn’t be running the club, including influencing the decisions of the club’s executives.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Excellent post

But nothing will convince this bloke as he truly doesn't believe his position, as evidenced by his own contrary posts sourced by others above in relation to the Broncos.

He just argues this to be contrary and to entertain himself for days on end - and then gets defended by others who claim his neurodivergence as somewhat of a shield from criticism or identification as a troll.
On the contrary, his talk of Cowboys and NY Nicks has convinced me I was wrong about the resourcing at the Broncos, and now their lack of success in recent years makes a lot more sense. So I can indeed be convinced of my erroneous opinions. Thanks @lucablight for showing me that the value of a club is worth much less than other factors including expenditure; a factor that tends to have a negative impact on the value of a business.
 

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