Rumours and Stuff

[Incorrect]

I have been reliably informed they are called the Nicks now mate.

 

[hineyrulz]

I have been reliably informed they are called the Nicks now mate.

Greece's favourite team.

 

[Twizzle]

I'll say it again if Resources are such the big deal Pou makes them out to be why haven't the Donkey's won a comp in almost two decades??? They must of broke 1000 mirrors and ran into 20,000 Black cats ffs!!

Of course they are important but if you continually waste them they mean absolutely zero.

Is Benny a resource, or an over rated coach ?

 

[King-Gutho94]

Is Benny a resource, or an over rated coach ?

I think its comical to think Bennett is over-rated. I get the argument he hasnt won a comp since 2010.

He lost 2 GFs since by a intercept and a Ben Hunt drop.

I think he has proven across numerous different clubs & rep football stints he is quality coach that get's the best of the players.

Bellamy had 1 crack at origin and failed miserably 2 wins from 9 games.

Bennett took the worst QLD team of the modern era with a backline of Corey Allan, Brenko Lee, Edrick Lee, Philip Sami to a series win in Covid.

For me that the difference between Bellamy has only proven himself in one organization.

Bennett has done it everywhere bar Newcastle.

 

[Noise]

I think its comical to think Bennett is over-rated. I get the argument he hasnt won a comp since 2010.

He lost 2 GFs since by a intercept and a Ben Hunt drop.

I think he has proven across numerous different clubs & rep football stints he is quality coach that get's the best of the players.

Bellamy had 1 crack at origin and failed miserably 2 wins from 9 games.

Bennett took the worst QLD team of the modern era with a backline of Corey Allan, Brenko Lee, Edrick Lee, Philip Sami to a series win in Covid.

For me that the difference between Bellamy has only proven himself in one organization.

Bennett has done it everywhere bar Newcastle.

Even at Newcastle he got them to a prelim.

 

[hineyrulz]

I think its comical to think Bennett is over-rated. I get the argument he hasnt won a comp since 2010.

He lost 2 GFs since by a intercept and a Ben Hunt drop.

I think he has proven across numerous different clubs & rep football stints he is quality coach that get's the best of the players.

Bellamy had 1 crack at origin and failed miserably 2 wins from 9 games.

Bennett took the worst QLD team of the modern era with a backline of Corey Allan, Brenko Lee, Edrick Lee, Philip Sami to a series win in Covid.

For me that the difference between Bellamy has only proven himself in one organization.

Bennett has done it everywhere bar Newcastle.

Yep pretty much, i also thought he did a pretty damn good job with a very thin squad at Redcliffe as well. Lack of depth cost them dearly both seasons.

 

[oldmancraigy]

No wonder we were 16th and they were 17th

We were 15th.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Yep pretty much, i also thought he did a pretty damn good job with a very thin squad at Redcliffe as well. Lack of depth cost them dearly both seasons.

Well he got BA sacked with a 2nd half demolition in Darwin

 

[oldmancraigy]

The Tigers were desperate and had to offer the Inner West basically to Luai.

Does he have a PO for each home ground the Tigers use to decide when he plays and when he doesn't.

And this is EXACTLY the right kind of scenario to offer POs!!

Scenario:
Your organisation sux
There is a star player actually talking to you
You pay them, and give them whatever it takes to get them on board in the hopes that you can then convince them to stay (the adage of more players stay than leave).
Hopefully your organisation improves both on and off-field because said star player brings a new level of professionalism.

You don't give a PO to a rookie kid... yikes!

 

[hineyrulz]

Well he got BA sacked with a 2nd half demolition in Darwin

We have a lot to thank Wayne for.

 

[King-Gutho94]

And this is EXACTLY the right kind of scenario to offer POs!!

Scenario:
Your organisation sux
There is a star player actually talking to you
You pay them, and give them whatever it takes to get them on board in the hopes that you can then convince them to stay (the adage of more players stay than leave).
Hopefully your organisation improves both on and off-field because said star player brings a new level of professionalism.

You don't give a PO to a rookie kid... yikes!

I don't blame the tigers either they need a circuit breaker somewhere.

They are a desperate club in need to get themselves off the bottom of the ladder.

The reputation in the game is seen as a basket-case so in order to entice elite talent they need to offer something out of the box.

And yes its different to offering an unproven kid who hadn't played FG in Blaize Talagi a PO which was downright stupidity and dumb.

We didnt even know what his best position was.

 

[T.S Quint]

Well we were never going to be interested in a direct competitor to the coaches son.

Why did we try to re-sign Mahoney then?

 

[T.S Quint]

I think its comical to think Bennett is over-rated. I get the argument he hasnt won a comp since 2010.

He lost 2 GFs since by a intercept and a Ben Hunt drop

Sounds like luck plus a part in winning GFs.

 

[T.S Quint]

And yes its different to offering an unproven kid who hadn't played FG in Blaize Talagi a PO which was downright stupidity and dumb.

We didnt even know what his best position was

Of course the club knows what his best position is.
Thing is, we already had top-class players on those positions (halves). If we wanted him at the club he would have to play somewhere else, so we gave him a shot at centre and fullback, both of which his skill set would say that he would be good at. Blaize decided he wanted to play elsewhere so he could play on the halves. I don’t see the problem here.

Also, if we never offered the PO then he may not have come to the club in the first place. He’s a highly rated junior, probably getting offers from all over, so a player option sweetens the deal to get him to the club.
Whether he has played FG or not means nothing unless he was on overs. But with his potential the chances of him becoming a FG player were good, so not a lot of risk there.
You get him to the club. We see how he goes. He was only going to activate the option if he got injured or became horrendously out of form anyway, so it was always basically a one year contract. No different to any other one year contract.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Of course the club knows what his best position is.
Thing is, we already had top-class players on those positions (halves). If we wanted him at the club he would have to play somewhere else, so we gave him a shot at centre and fullback, both of which his skill set would say that he would be good at. Blaize decided he wanted to play elsewhere so he could play on the halves. I don’t see the problem here.

Also, if we never offered the PO then he may not have come to the club in the first place. He’s a highly rated junior, probably getting offers from all over, so a player option sweetens the deal to get him to the club.
Whether he has played FG or not means nothing unless he was on overs. But with his potential the chances of him becoming a FG player were good, so not a lot of risk there.
You get him to the club. We see how he goes. He was only going to activate the option if he got injured or became horrendously out of form anyway, so it was always basically a one year contract. No different to any other one year contract.

Agree with your first paragraph.

Disagree with your second. He became a highly rated jnr while he was at the club. Played in our local comp, family of Eels supporters. I think it's a combo of he came into first grade a year before we expected him to and so we never expected demand for him, and we got a bit lazy and never thought he would actually go.

We may still come out on top though because the last thing we need right now is defensively fragile centers and that is where we would have been forced to play him.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Why did we try to re-sign Mahoney then?

Are you sure we did? Maybe a bit of slight of hand to appease the fans. Maybe Hodgson was always the plan?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Resources don’t mean anything if you don’t use them properly. The Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable club in the NFL and haven’t won a Super Bowl for nearly 30 years. The New York Knicks are the second most valuable franchise in the NBA and haven’t won for over 50 years.

You’ve made a lot of untested assumptions here. Until you can answer these questions, those factoids are meaningless in the context of resourcing:

1. How does the value of an organisation translate to resourcing? Businesses often gain value by reducing their costs, usually by sacking people.

2. Is it possible the high value of these organisations means they in fact are using their resources properly?

3. Given a level playing field, any NFL team is only a one in 32 chance of winning each year, so it’s obvious that some luck is required to win competitions. How much more resourcing would be required to guarantee more than one win every 32 years? The Cowboys are at least sitting on average. Bad luck could account for them not winning a second Super Bowl in that time, which would put them well ahead of the average.

4. In light of the above point, a more granular measure of onfield success tells us more about its relationship to resources. Therefore how does the Cowboys’ win rate compare to its competitors?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Booooooooooods

Can you believe we rissoled Nick Lenaz for that bum?!?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well put.

we have been resourced well enough for many years but have squandered our opportunities with poor decisions in management and coaching.

some would have you believe that coaching doesn’t matter and that the team with the most money and “resources” always wins the comp - those people know little about rugby league and would rather be proven “right” about their noble cause for the past many years than see parramatta successful.

we have had enough resources, but we have just never set ourselves up exactly right or made the right decisions in recruitment, staffing, preparation or strategy on and off the field.

I am happy to say I think that is rapidly changing.

others are not so happy, but I suppose the wheel will turn back for them one day and they can once more revel in misery and mediocrity - hopefully not for a long time though!

How the f**k would you know how good our resourcing has been? Where is your evidence? It’s not 40 years worth of results, that’s for f**king sure.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well we were never going to be interested in a direct competitor to the coaches son.

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