Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Manly subsidised Watmough’s contract too. And he absolutely set standards at training. He doesn’t need to hang around with the boys for coffee afterwards. Leaders need to keep some distance.

 

[TheRam]

If we had the players you’re talking about we would be weaker in other areas. That’s how the salary cap works.

We're already weak in other areas mate. Haven't you worked that out yet? So strengthen what has always been true since the very beginning in RL. Front row and halves. Then work out the rest from there.

 

[TheRam]

Manly subsidised Watmough’s contract too. And he absolutely set standards at training. He doesn’t need to hang around with the boys for coffee afterwards. Leaders need to keep some distance.

Fake news.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Manly subsidised Watmough’s contract too. And he absolutely set standards at training. He doesn’t need to hang around with the boys for coffee afterwards. Leaders need to keep some distance.

I always thought that as well. Players like Watmough, Scott, Foran, Gordon etc were, apart from their current or past performances, bought to the club to change our culture and provide leadership. The days of 54 to nil thrashings and piss poor attitude were reasoned to be history. Clearly they were thought too highly of or our culture can bring down even the best of them. Develop our own leaders and be prepared to move on those that dont conform. Mannah has been pretty good but has he displayed the form he displayed representing The Cucumbers? Not even close.
Yep Im still annoyed over last weeks effort by the 1s and 2s.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

I don’t reckon Brown is that far away. He is 18 this year and already one of the best halves in Flegg. He could be a first grader by 2020.

Which puts us in a great cap position, we could afford to let either Moses / Norman to leave when they are off contract next year if brown is ready.

 

[hineyrulz]

Pou still talking up the Watmong signing lol.

 

[84 Baby]

Moses and Farah seemed to gel OK for Lebanon

I reckon that was because Farah wasn’t playing hooker

 

[Djay]

I always thought that as well. Players like Watmough, Scott, Foran, Gordon etc were, apart from their current or past performances, bought to the club to change our culture and provide leadership. The days of 54 to nil thrashings and piss poor attitude were reasoned to be history. Clearly they were thought too highly of or our culture can bring down even the best of them. Develop our own leaders and be prepared to move on those that dont conform. Mannah has been pretty good but has he displayed the form he displayed representing The Cucumbers? Not even close.
Yep Im still annoyed over last weeks effort by the 1s and 2s.

x2

I really thought in 2016 as a club and as a team we took a huge step forward in loads of important aspects of the game, our mentality, our recruitment, our defence, our attitude top to bottom just everything was slowly coming together finally after years of shit. We signed some hard nosed players and leaders above all and had a really good football team with some senior leaders mixed with some flair and individual talent.

I saw Parramatta defend as well as they ever have in long long time, we had guys who looked like they gave a f**k, we had leaders and above all else we had winners guys who wanted to win at all costs.

Scott, Foran, Gordon were all great signings and we benefited as a result that season we looked brilliant and like I keep saying we looked like a premiership side.
The rest is of course history and that’s that but currently 2 years on I don’t see us having any other real leaders or born winners.

Seeing us lose 54-0 a few weeks ago has brought back memories of some horrible times only a few years ago and for me was a massive step backwards as I thought we had well and truly moved on from those days especially in the BA era, it felt like we had taken 10 huge steps back when things were looking so promising.

Also I heard Corey Norman on the BSB this morning I don’t know what to make of his mind frame right now, he certainly doesn’t think much of Sticky and he seems reasonably okay with Parra and BA as of now. Not sure what to think of it.

 

[Happy MEel]

Why is consecutive losses more relevant than total losses in a season?

At the end of a season it doesn’t. However consecutive losses has more potential to lead to a lack of confidence and subsequent losses that may not necessarily have been the case with a few wins under the belt.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We're already weak in other areas mate. Haven't you worked that out yet? So strengthen what has always been true since the very beginning in RL. Front row and halves. Then work out the rest from there.

Mate we won 29 games in the past two years (also top four in the NRL during that time). Our attacking middle (not their defence) is our weakest point. On the edges we are quite strong.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pou still talking up the Watmong signing lol.

It certainly didn't hurt us, and coincided with our new hard nosed attitude. It might be coincidence - we also got rid of Sandow at about that time. But it might not be coincidence either. Let's assume he did what he was bought to do, rather than thinking we know everything that happens behind the scenes.

 

[84 Baby]

Mate we won 29 games in the past two years (also top four in the NRL during that time). Our attacking middle (not their defence) is our weakest point. On the edges we are quite strong.

So you're saying we should play our edge players up the middle? I like it!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

At the end of a season it doesn’t. However consecutive losses has more potential to lead to a lack of confidence and subsequent losses that may not necessarily have been the case with a few wins under the belt.

Or does it lead to desperation and opposition teams taking you lightly?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So you're saying we should play our edge players up the middle? I like it!

But just in defence. Can you imagine French and Moses in the middle smashing merkins and laying all over the ruck? It would be brutal.

 

[Matthew Ellis]

James Hooper is saying that Brown will be dropped for getting into a punch up at training. Apparently it was with Mosses.

 

[Gronk]

James Hooper is saying that Brown will be dropped for getting into a punch up at training. Apparently it was with Mosses.

 

[hineyrulz]

It certainly didn't hurt us, and coincided with our new hard nosed attitude. It might be coincidence - we also got rid of Sandow at about that time. But it might not be coincidence either. Let's assume he did what he was bought to do, rather than thinking we know everything that happens behind the scenes.

Nah i'm just joking he was an awesome signing.

Cost the club over 3m for about 12 games, awesome value.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nah i'm just joking he was an awesome signing.

Cost the club over 3m for about 12 games, awesome value.

It wasn't on the cap though so who cares? We were desperate to pay merkins outside the cap and we found a way. It's one of the few things we didn't f**k up.

 

[Gronk]

It wasn't on the cap though so who cares? We were desperate to pay merkins outside the cap and we found a way. It's one of the few things we didn't f**k up.

Shutup. You are spoiling his "everything smells like shit" narrative.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Shutup. You are spoiling his "everything smells like shit" narrative.

He just wants to be f**ken right about something. Some merkins need to say I-told-you-so.