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Stevie

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Are you f**king joking?
 

emjaycee

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Bringing Watmough was one of the dumbest things he has done since being our coach and I and others here stated it at the time and we were right.

I also wasn't very happy about Scott for similar reasons of age and injury issues at his age. Now at least we have gotten some decent games out of Scott, but still for the coin and what he was brought here to do, I feel overall he has been an average signing. But not the disaster Watmough turned out to be.

There are always great leaders around at other clubs that can be brought in that would of done better jobs then either of those two. I know your first question will now be who? But I don't remember who was around at the time we signed them two so I can't give you an example.

But just look at the Dragons this year. They pounced on James Graham and even have the Dogs paying from what I heard most of his 900k salary. Now that's an awesome pickup. A high profile individual that is constantly in demand by the media(free exposure for your club), leader on and off the field, no nonsense charismatic and liked by most fans of the NRL.

Also on that, when he retires, and if he stays in Oz, he will probably have a job in the media. He will be another media personality that will be aligned with both the Dogs and Saints. All we have is Sterlo from 30 years ago, who is good at his job, but you would never know he is a former Parra boy, and the buffoon Hindy, that no one takes seriously.

I heard a story on one of the NRL shows a few weeks ago, that during the off season on their training runs. Graham was busting a gut as he normally does and two of the other forwards who admire and look up to him(apparently they all do) didn't want to be seen as weak and wanted to impress and in doing so broke their personal best records. Now that is the sort of thing you want from a leader.

Not Watmough, who by his own words would keep to himself and after training would rush off home.

There are always leaders in the game that you can get to your club that can change the attitude of the younger boneheads. But the coach has to be able to identify and then attract them to the club. So far as I'm concerned BA has done a pretty piss poor job of that so far.

Back in 2015 I heard a story that a young Tepai Moroea (I know not your fav. player but anyway) had a niggling shoulder injury that was a recurrence of previous injuries. He was contemplating mid-season surgery that would have seen him miss the remainder of the season. He watch Watmough prepare for games and learned of the injuries and niggles Watmough lived with and decided that if Watmough could continue to play on with the injuries he had, then he (Tepai) could as well. Decision made, surgery postponed, played through and with the pain and saw out the season.

Now that inspiration is the sort of thing I want from a leader.
 

hineyrulz

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It wasn't on the cap though so who cares? We were desperate to pay merkins outside the cap and we found a way. It's one of the few things we didn't f**k up.
But we are broke remember??? We can't afford a defence coach or a head of football. Some of those millions might have came in the handy........
 

hineyrulz

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Shutup. You are spoiling his "everything smells like shit" narrative.
Unlike you who bleats "everything is just fine"
I could imagine you in a house fire where the whole place is gutted with the roof about to go telling everyone inside to be calm everything is fine no need to worry.

The Whatmong signing was a disaster anyone who doesn't think so is kidding themselves or Pou who would support the club no matter what it does.
 

hineyrulz

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The PLC isn't f**ken broke, and back then they were happy to foot the bill.
But you told us just last week we weren't made of money and can't afford a defence coach or a head of football, make up your mind merkin. Around around and around we go where Pou Pou Excusebar ends up we will never know.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Unlike you who bleats "everything is just fine"
I could imagine you in a house fire where the whole place is gutted with the roof about to go telling everyone inside to be calm everything is fine no need to worry.

The Whatmong signing was a disaster anyone who doesn't think so is kidding themselves or Pou who would support the club no matter what it does.
How was it a disaster? If we'd needed him to he would've played 80+ games while he was here. Instead we got what we needed out of him and let him retire on a motza while still freeing up our cap. It was win-win. You're just pissed because a former Manly player got a lifetime's salary for 12 months' work.
 

Poupou Escobar

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But you told us just last week we weren't made of money and can't afford a defence coach or a head of football, make up your mind merkin.
Maybe you should pay attention instead of only hearing what you want to hear. The footy club is on a tight budget because the PLC is giving us less money. That wasn't the case when we signed Watmough.
Around around and around we go where Pou Pou Excusebar ends up we will never know.
If I could dumb it down any more for you I would.
 

hineyrulz

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How was it a disaster? If we'd needed him to he would've played 80+ games while he was here. Instead we got what we needed out of him and let him retire on a motza while still freeing up our cap. It was win-win. You're just pissed because a former Manly player got a lifetime's salary for 12 months' work.
LOL nah it was fantastic, i'm just taking the piss. 12 games at over 3million bucks is exactly what we needed from him.
 

hineyrulz

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Maybe you should pay attention instead of only hearing what you want to hear. The footy club is on a tight budget because the PLC is giving us less money. That wasn't the case when we signed Watmough.

If I could dumb it down any more for you I would.
Good to see the PLC giving us less money, all the top teams are spending less and less on their football departments. I mean i bet all the other teams don't a have a defence coach or a head of football.

It's all about the Leagues club, who gives a f**k about the football team. I mean it's not like the Leagues club only exists to support the Football club.......
 

Stevie

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LOL nah it was fantastic, i'm just taking the piss. 12 games at over 3million bucks is exactly what we needed from him.

Who really cares though? The lost money didn't affect us as a club etc cap wise. And believe it or not Choc probably helped us recruit other players. Regardless of whether the other players worked or not. (Foran).
 

hineyrulz

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Who really cares though? The lost money didn't affect us as a club etc cap wise. And believe it or not Choc probably helped us recruit other players. Regardless of whether the other players worked or not. (Foran).
Nah it worked out fantastic, we only got caught rorting the cap the next season. It all worked out fantastic.
 

Poupou Escobar

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LOL nah it was fantastic, i'm just taking the piss. 12 games at over 3million bucks is exactly what we needed from him.
Would you prefer if he stayed the whole four years on our cap? We only needed him for one year with Manly paying some freight. So that's what we got.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Good to see the PLC giving us less money, all the top teams are spending less and less on their football departments. I mean i bet all the other teams don't a have a defence coach or a head of football.
Every club has these roles, including us. Plenty of them would be combined with other roles, including us.
It's all about the Leagues club, who gives a f**k about the football team. I mean it's not like the Leagues club only exists to support the Football club.......
The PLC exists to serve its members and customers and comply with state law. When they're allowed to vote again, if PLC members want to go back to pouring more money into the footy team then they will. Like you, I would prefer it, but like you I don't give a f**k about the leagues club. Unfortunately the bloke making the decisions there does give a f**k about the PLC.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Nah it worked out fantastic, we only got caught rorting the cap the next season. It all worked out fantastic.
Watmough's fault we got caught? And you weren't happy with the 29 wins over the next two years? We only won 32 games in the four years before that.
 

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