Rumours and Stuff

[Noise]

Stats are useful but you have to know how to interpret them. This is where I get my point of view from ffs. The stats+interpretation come first. The opinions follow from there.

Anyway Talakai is the strongest centre in the game. Penisini might be second.

So how many more times do those other centres beat their man on the outside compared to Penisini who apparently does it the hard way?

 

[Noise]

Seventeen teams, that’s 34 first choice centres. Him being 9th is decently above average I’d say.

Not all of them played as many games as Penisini.

 

[Tmars]

I took interest in Brandon Smith’s comments on his podcast with James Graham today. I’m not a fan of the cheese but there is definitely no filter on him.

He was asked specifically what Ryles is like as a coach, and he said a few things.

He stated Ryles was always well loved by the playing group, but that Ryles had the ability to “snap if you were not putting in properly and trust me, Ryles is f**king scary if you are not putting in”. But genuinely said he think Parra are a club who have never had a defensive mindset which is what Bellamy coached upon.

He did go to great lengths to say Ryles was the sole planner and organiser of the Storm defence structures and that the structures he put in place are still being used at the Roosters! He said whatever happens, he’s tipping them to be a great defensive side which he said he believed was all Parra ever needed, a steely edge.

It was hard to listen after that due to my erection but music to many’s ears I’m sure:

Definitely a bit of mayo added to what I heard but hey why not.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So how many more times do those other centres beat their man on the outside compared to Penisini who apparently does it the hard way?

He beats his man on the outside too. Last year the only centres who made more line breaks than him were Farnworth and Graham. This year with Moses missing we didn't attack as much down our right hand side and most of Penisini's carries seemed to be hit ups. Either that or he's past it at 22. You can decide for yourself which you think it is.

 

[Johnny88]

VOLKMAN CLOSE TO NEW CLUB
Ronald Volkman is expected to make a call on his future on Friday after holding a second round of meetings with Parramatta over the prospect of joining the Jason Ryles revolution.
Volkman, hoping to revive his career after an injury saga stymied a proposed move to St George Illawarra almost a year ago, has also spoken to Cronulla over a potential move to the Sharks.
It is understood the Sharks haven’t progressed talks, leaving Parramatta with a free run at the young playmaker.
Manly were also in the mix for his services but it is believed they have now dropped out of the race.
Sport Con understands that Volkman’s manager Mario Tartak spoke to the Eels earlier this week and a decision on his future is imminent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/aaron-woods-and-beau-ryan-partner-with-natarsha-belling-for-triple-m-breakfast-radio/news-story/aa37f89771ef58edf89c50faeca3231f?amp&nk=4d12d3ba44deb5c473ba8a641a948493-1732777691

 

[Tiger5150]

VOLKMAN CLOSE TO NEW CLUB
Ronald Volkman is expected to make a call on his future on Friday after holding a second round of meetings with Parramatta over the prospect of joining the Jason Ryles revolution.
Volkman, hoping to revive his career after an injury saga stymied a proposed move to St George Illawarra almost a year ago, has also spoken to Cronulla over a potential move to the Sharks.
It is understood the Sharks haven’t progressed talks, leaving Parramatta with a free run at the young playmaker.
Manly were also in the mix for his services but it is believed they have now dropped out of the race.
Sport Con understands that Volkman’s manager Mario Tartak spoke to the Eels earlier this week and a decision on his future is imminent.

Looks like Parra are going to win another "bidding war"

 

[TheCrowe]

Looks like Parra are going to win another "bidding war"

Good depth signing so will take the "win".

 

[hineyrulz]

Decent back up with some upside, gee i miss us picking up those journey man plodders off the scrap heap.........

 

[King-Gutho94]

VOLKMAN CLOSE TO NEW CLUB
Ronald Volkman is expected to make a call on his future on Friday after holding a second round of meetings with Parramatta over the prospect of joining the Jason Ryles revolution.
Volkman, hoping to revive his career after an injury saga stymied a proposed move to St George Illawarra almost a year ago, has also spoken to Cronulla over a potential move to the Sharks.
It is understood the Sharks haven’t progressed talks, leaving Parramatta with a free run at the young playmaker.
Manly were also in the mix for his services but it is believed they have now dropped out of the race.
Sport Con understands that Volkman’s manager Mario Tartak spoke to the Eels earlier this week and a decision on his future is imminent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/aaron-woods-and-beau-ryan-partner-with-natarsha-belling-for-triple-m-breakfast-radio/news-story/aa37f89771ef58edf89c50faeca3231f?amp&nk=4d12d3ba44deb5c473ba8a641a948493-1732777691

Hopefully the kid does well wherever he goes.

It looke he got screwed over by 2 clubs last season.

His manager should be blamed as well.

Also Aaron Woods on Triple M breakfast with Beau Ryan seriously whose going to listen to those 2 idiots.

 

[Gronk]

Looks like Parra are going to win another "bidding war"

Yeah well now that you have the best spine in the comp and backup spine as well, it’s a GF or it’s a fail. Put your house on it. Gibberer.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Looked like Richo was having a stroke trying to say that.

 

[RustedonEel]

Also Aaron Woods on Triple M breakfast with Beau Ryan seriously whose going to listen to those 2 idiots.

Only other idiots. These two definitely have powerful friends in the media.

 

[The Predictor]

I just watched Benji Marshall on Channel 9. For a coach with no achievements yet and back-to-back wooden spoons, he’s surprisingly smug. I used to like him, but now he comes across as consistently petulant.

Him and Farah have always been polarising, creating various splits in past teams, therefore still a plonker

 

[The Predictor]

VOLKMAN CLOSE TO NEW CLUB
Ronald Volkman is expected to make a call on his future on Friday after holding a second round of meetings with Parramatta over the prospect of joining the Jason Ryles revolution.
Volkman, hoping to revive his career after an injury saga stymied a proposed move to St George Illawarra almost a year ago, has also spoken to Cronulla over a potential move to the Sharks.
It is understood the Sharks haven’t progressed talks, leaving Parramatta with a free run at the young playmaker.
Manly were also in the mix for his services but it is believed they have now dropped out of the race.
Sport Con understands that Volkman’s manager Mario Tartak spoke to the Eels earlier this week and a decision on his future is imminent.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/aaron-woods-and-beau-ryan-partner-with-natarsha-belling-for-triple-m-breakfast-radio/news-story/aa37f89771ef58edf89c50faeca3231f?amp&nk=4d12d3ba44deb5c473ba8a641a948493-1732777691

So basically we the only ones interested, I predict he will sign with Parra

 

[Gronk]

So basically we the only ones interested, I predict he will sign with Parra

Sharks have 3 genuine NRL players in Trindall, Nicho and Atkinson. Manly have cap issues. So methinks they were both bargain bin shopping ?

 

[hineyrulz]

Looked like Richo was having a stroke trying to say that.

Something was getting stroked.

 

[Glenneel]

Everything the Eels ever do is a PR exercise. Fans, not just Parra fans, react massively to whatever our players do. Whether we like it or not the general NRL fan base are obsessed with us.

journos

 

[lucablight]

We do have enough, but the difference between one win (some of the clubs mentioned) and zero wins (us and some other clubs) is accounted for by a difference in fortune. For example, we have made three grand finals in the NRL era, which is almost the average. With slightly more luck we would have made four grand finals, which is better than average. This tells me we are probably a club with average strength/resources. As for grand final wins, the average of three grand finals would be either one or two wins (because you can't win 1.5 games). We have zero, which is below average, but a sample of three is small, and bad luck (again) accounts for the difference between zero and one win.

The NRL era has been going for 27 years, and we have had a lot of scapegoats in that time, so blaming individuals would be lazy. We are either an average strength club that has been unlucky, or a below average strength club that has had an average share of luck. That's the only logical conclusion. Blame Brad Arthur, Mark O'Neill or your other favourite scapegoat of the era is just cope.

How was Brad Arthur a scapegoat? He was given 11 years. In the coaching game that is more than a fair opportunity. If you want to want to count post salary cap it was 7.5 years which is still a more than fair crack and that’s despite getting a wooden spoon during that time. I think you’ll find most people are in favour of the club going in a new direction and are in favour of giving Ryles a chance because it was pretty clear we were stagnating under the previous setup.

Wooden spoons are absolutely about a lack of luck. Teams only run last with severe injury tolls and/or off field dramas. But weaker clubs need less misfortune to run last than stronger clubs.

So what happened in 2018?

 

[hineyrulz]

How was Brad Arthur a scapegoat? He was given 11 years. In the coaching game that is more than a fair opportunity. If you want to want to count post salary cap it was 7.5 years which is still a more than fair crack and that’s despite getting a wooden spoon during that time. I think you’ll find most people are in favour of the club going in a new direction and are in favour of giving Ryles a chance because it was pretty clear we were stagnating under the previous setup.

So what happened in 2018?

Bad luck and a lack of resources ffs!!

 

[Legal Eel]

Sounds like your still on BA anus.

Have you booked accommodation at Leeds yet.

In JR we all trust.

Seems like a lot of gronks on here want to pou all over any enthusiasm and excitement people have for the JR era, in case it highlights the stagnation and limitations of the BA era.

Won’t somebody please think of BAs children?