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Poupou Escobar

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I agree that Arthur did show a ruthless side on occasions when it came to roster management. Nathan Brown and Fui were dealt with pretty harshly. Would he have done the same for Gutherson and RCG tho? I have my doubts because they were obviously two of his favourites. If he let his personal feelings get in the way of what’s best for the team then you can certainly say that’s a weakness of his as a coach.
It’s got nothing to do with personal feelings getting in the way of what’s good for the team. Coaches need senior players they can trust, and that has proven to work for Brad Arthur and our club in the past. However we go next year, we’ll never know if we would have gone better or worse if we’d kept Brad Arthur’s, Gutherson or RCG. That’s a fact.
As far as finals records go we have to look at the outcome at the end of the day. If people are calling Penrith a dynasty now despite two of their grand final wins with a victory of 2 points then would we be saying a similar thing if they had lost them? No we’d be looking at the outcome and saying they’re chokers. You can say our two point loss in 2021 was because of bad luck but at the end of the day we weren’t clutch (despite the dubious refereeing) and Penrith were clutch for two of their grand final wins.
Right but this is my point. People have dopey lizard brains and assume the thing that happened was the only possible outcome. Then they create post hoc causal narratives that completely ignore the impact of randomness (luck) on the outcome. Some of these dopey merkins even support the Eels.
 

Pazza

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As much fun as it is to put shit on Parra, and in particular their addiction to PO's, I dont think there is enough money in Australia to commit a player of Luai's talent to a club as bad as ours for 5 years and to be honest we shouldnt want that either. If its going to work there will be evidence in the next 12-18 months. Luai is not the question, Benji and the club are.

Green shoots and Im grateful for that

West's needed something a little extra to get the deal done with an elite talent. Given they have won three spoons in a row, it's understandable.

We give options out to players like penisini and matterson.

Business so smart the club Won't even do it any more.....
 

Poupou Escobar

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This is a fair. Name (or describe) two different game plans in the game. Nobody can. It is all the same. There is no variety in RL.
Whereas in American football just on offence there is air raid, triple option, spread, pro the list probably goes on.
I wouldn’t say they all play the same way. Every team plays to its strengths, which aren’t all the same. But the teams with the most stars have the most options, meaning they are harder to defend against.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I agree with alot you have written and for the large part BA did more good than bad and he was able to stabilise our club and did give us generally a good 11 year period . But I do think he needed to go not just for us but himself as he does not come across as flexible and able to change the way the team played. I look at Bellamy who has been able to adapt the past 20 years.
He hit his ceiling with us and I don’t think he had it in him to rejuvenate this side
I’m sure the club didn’t just sack him because of our low win rate this year. It was an indicator of something else wrong with the team, and Arthur obviously wasn’t considered part of the solution.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If we defend our line half as good as you defend Cousin Brad we will be doing well…you are relentless in your pining for the days of limited mediocrity.

I love that your philosophy is “shoot for the middle and you will be able to better accept inevitable failure”

Inspiring.
Well just like you I’m not in control of the team. Unlike you I have the sense not to piss and moan about it.

How’s your high standards working out for you in real life you cranky bitter dope?
 

Poupou Escobar

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West's needed something a little extra to get the deal done with an elite talent. Given they have won three spoons in a row, it's understandable.

We give options out to players like penisini and matterson.

Business so smart the club Won't even do it any more.....
I’m sure we will when it’s required, but the salary cap was biting us due to sustained finals appearances. After two years out of the finals there is less pressure to keep the squad together so no need to offer incentives outside the cap (i.e. player options).

I mean, why would the club decide the POs were a bad idea? How have they hurt the club?
 

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