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hineyrulz

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You were talking about Tedesco’s last game.
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Poupou Escobar

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You still have no idea - you seriously aren’t here for the rugby league nor do you even watch the sport, as you really are just here to troll parra fans because it gives you some sick pleasure.

This post will make you harder than a cats head no doubt.
I watch the sport, I just don’t think highlight moments have much meaning beyond their entertainment value. They are by nature a very small sample of data. If Tedesco is no longer good enough for Origin it’ll be reflected in his stats, not in losing one contested bomb. The incumbent NSW fullback is so poor under the high ball that he often lets them bounce. That’s not reflected in the stats because it’s highlights stuff, not data. Edwards has great stats, like all good players.
 

Poupou Escobar

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He got dropped because he killed NSW’s attack for his last two series. You pull your pin dick over stats but you don’t watch FA footy. You are an utter fraud you still have no idea what game we are talking about. Glug glug glug!!
You’re right, I don’t remember what game you’re talking about. I haven’t given a shit about Origin since about 2003. I never find it memorable. I have enough trouble remembering Eels games more than a week later. This is why stats are so valuable.
 

oldmancraigy

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I have enough trouble remembering Eels games more than a week later. This is why stats are so valuable.

We know mate, we are the poor saps who wade through mountains of uninformed posts.

Unfortubately RL stats (the ones available to the public) aren't sufficient to base a deep opinion on. Needs more advanced data and analysis. They are helpful for superficial commentary and comparison - but lack depth (at this stage).
 

hindy111

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I watch the sport, I just don’t think highlight moments have much meaning beyond their entertainment value. They are by nature a very small sample of data. If Tedesco is no longer good enough for Origin it’ll be reflected in his stats, not in losing one contested bomb. The incumbent NSW fullback is so poor under the high ball that he often lets them bounce. That’s not reflected in the stats because it’s highlights stuff, not data. Edwards has great stats, like all good players.

Edwards is not poor under the high ball. He is fine. Drops the odd one just like Ponga or Teddy or Walsh. Often suggests one or two a game . I'd guess 5 or 6 a season which is not often. Its odd occasion.. You are just used to watching Gutherson who never drops them unless its a wild kick. He was no 1 bomb diffuser in the competition.

Edwards isn't a superstar like Walsh or Ponga. But he is more a Gutherson with a bit more power, speed, stamina so he wears a defense down slowly rather then one hit like Walsh /Ponga who are explosive.

At his peak Gutherson was a top 5 fullback. If he was faster and a bit stronger I have no doubt he would of hit no 1. His ball playing is superior to Edwards and so is his kicking game.

The reason why Edwards/Gutherson shine is defense. Both save 1 or 2 tries a game that Walsh or Ponga couldn't stop.
We won't miss Guths attack but we might miss his defense.
 

Poupou Escobar

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We know mate, we are the poor saps who wade through mountains of uninformed posts.

Unfortubately RL stats (the ones available to the public) aren't sufficient to base a deep opinion on. Needs more advanced data and analysis. They are helpful for superficial commentary and comparison - but lack depth (at this stage).
But they are far more reliable than the highlights we remember.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Edwards is not poor under the high ball. He is fine. Drops the odd one just like Ponga or Teddy or Walsh. Often suggests one or two a game . I'd guess 5 or 6 a season which is not often.
He drops f**k all for two reasons:

1. Teams struggle to get close enough to put up dangerous bombs
2. He lets them bounce rather than risk dropping them
Its odd occasion.. You are just used to watching Gutherson who never drops them unless it’s a wild kick. He was no 1 bomb diffuser in the competition.

Edwards isn't a superstar like Walsh or Ponga. But he is more a Gutherson with a bit more power, speed, stamina so he wears a defense down slowly rather then one hit like Walsh /Ponga who are explosive.
Also lacks the playmaking skills of the others
At his peak Gutherson was a top 5 fullback. If he was faster and a bit stronger I have no doubt he would have hit no 1. His ball playing is superior to Edwards and so is his kicking game.

The reason why Edwards/Gutherson shine is defense. Both save 1 or 2 tries a game that Walsh or Ponga couldn't stop.
We won't miss Guths attack but we might miss his defense.
Agreed. But if we improve our defensive line we won’t need to rely on our fullback so much.
 

hindy111

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He drops f**k all for two reasons:

1. Teams struggle to get close enough to put up dangerous bombs
2. He lets them bounce rather than risk dropping them

Also lacks the playmaking skills of the others

Agreed. But if we improve our defensive line we won’t need to rely on our fullback so much.


He is an 7-9/10 in every department.
Guys like Walsh range from 3-10 /10
Edwards is hardly dynamic but he is the best fullback in comp if you consider defense.

Otherwise hands down its Ponga. But I am Ponga Bias. Best player in game if ask me.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Long term plan especially when your at the club for so long ..
He wouldn’t have lasted so long without good planning. It’s one of the KPIs ffs.
Not having a plan looks like 2024 getting fired
No that means the club is going with a new plan. It’s why they’ll give Ryles many years to implement his own plans. It’s like you think anyone can just rock up and get an NRL coaching job.
 

JokerEel

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He wouldn’t have lasted so long without good planning. It’s one of the KPIs ffs.

No that means the club is going with a new plan. It’s why they’ll give Ryles many years to implement his own plans. It’s like you think anyone can just rock up and get an NRL coaching job.


You mean the club is going with someone with a plan.
 

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