Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

What the hell did I just read..

Oh yeah Melbourne Storm and Faalogo and Pezet..

Oh yeah we should just keep everyone we want. What a great strategy. Everyone should be doing it.

 

[hindy111]

Good luck to him if that happens. He didn't seem to be a fit at the Eels, imo.

In 2023 he was playing SG BALL. I watched him in the Flegg semi final and laughed. I was left scratching my head how anyone thought he could play NRL in 2024 as he was dominated so easily physically.
But he gained quite a bit of muscle and power. Not ready but did better then I thought he would.. And still a kid. He will grow more and fill out. Atleast 5-7 kgs of muscle to stack on.
He might be a flop but I don't think so.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pretty straight forward worked for the Storm...

But Pou knows better than the Panthers and Storm

You know better than the other 15 clubs? You should tell them all how easy it is to build a squad ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Also anyone want to tell me why the club is now trying to get Moses to resign again already and remove his clauses???

Because he is off contract and the clauses are likely for unders and he wants more money.

 

[Gronk]

The big issue is how.many the club has handed out at one time. If we had say Ryan matterson only with a PO this offseason, this issue would be a non starter.

We agree on that. This demonstrates the risk or a club when you hand out options to players when they are not elite. I don’t know what Matto is on, so maybe his option +1 value is reasonable.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We lost them cause their pathways where blocked by guys with a lot of footy left and long contracts with POs all over the place.

It wouldn't matter if they didn't have POs. Drown and Moses were preferred to Talagi and Sanders. That's why we didn't match rival offers.

 

[hineyrulz]

Then how come we are the only team in the nrl that does it??

And why have we stopped doing it?

We were smart before, but now we are real dumb just like us dopey fans.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well we could of given Blaize a PO to leave if Dylan takes his up.

The PO isn't to leave, it's to stay ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And how come we haven't offered POs in our last few contracts????

These questions never get answered

I've answered it for you. We are under less cap pressure since the end of 2022.

 

[Pazza]

We agree on that. This demonstrates the risk or a club when you hand out options to players when they are not elite. I don’t know what Matto is on, so maybe his option +1 value is reasonable.

I think it was done in desperation, but wat would I know

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A partially torn ACL does not strengthen your bargaining position. He may not even play much of 26 so Id not be bending over for his manager.

Who would you be bending over for?

 

[Pazza]

We were smart before, but now we are real dumb just like us dopey fans.

Well we are pretty dumb, we do support this lame duck club

 

[84 Baby]

Then how come we are the only team in the nrl that does it??

And why have we stopped doing it?

Why are we the only ones doing it? Because someone at the club recognised the theoretical advantage it could give us, while other clubs didn’t recognise it or placed too high risk on it. Or in case of Smugs, don’t change a winning team.
Why have we stopped? I thought my post answered that? It’s communism, in theory it works. But ultimately it’d be difficult to maintain. It’s like Manly with Dessie’s first spin with backended contracts. It’s spinning plates.

 

[hindy111]

The options add risk. Risk increases randomness, which benefits the underdog in a contest (including the player market). Therefore the top clubs will be more likely to avoid risk, because they have more to lose and less to gain from it.

The Panthers lose players every year but still have four merkins who played Origin in 2024 plus Cleary. They are doing just fine with player retention.

They have good juniors coming thru every year but. And high quality. This year you will get to see Casey Mclean become a star

 

[TheCrowe]

Who would you be bending over for?

So f**king funny

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are we saving money on giving players a PO?

I don't see why a player like Moses or Brown would take less to get a ridiculous player option.

Because they wanted to stay and the club's salary cap was tight. The options at least gave them some long term certainty if they needed it. Look at Haze Dunster. He got an extra year on six figures and in the end it was worth every penny he gave up when he agreed to the option instead of whatever amount he initially wanted before his knee injury.

These player options look like we are throwing alot at these players and then giving them the option to piss off of another club comes in and wants to give them even more.

Looks like it to you and the typical rugby league fan. But the bean counters understand contract options just fine.

 

[Pazza]

Player agents saw us in compromised position after reed, ICE, Marata, Oregon etc all left and they took MON and the club for a ride.

 

[JokerEel]

Oh yeah we should just keep everyone we want. What a great strategy. Everyone should be doing it.

Once again you agree with me thanks for coming to terms of you being wrong all these years

 

[JokerEel]

Because they wanted to stay and the club's salary cap was tight. The options at least gave them some long term certainty if they needed it. Look at Haze Dunster. He got an extra year on six figures and in the end it was worth every penny he gave up when he agreed to the option instead of whatever amount he initially wanted before his knee injury.

Looks like it to you and the typical rugby league fan. But the bean counters understand contract options just fine.

So you agree that they should just sign a long term deal with no options great work again Jon

 

[hindy111]

Who would you be bending over for?

Depends. Do I get a turn afterwards?