Rumours and Stuff

[T.S Quint]

Should have kept the AFL Merkin.

More trampolines please.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Bullshit, of course we are!!! We are trying to take the POs out of the contract so its a brand new contract at probably a higher price! The old contract becomes null and void.

That's right, it is at a higher price. That's because a contract with POs is worth more than one without. So if Drown is going to give up his current deal with player options he will want more money to compensate. The same way he gave up money when he agreed to them in the first place.

And has the club offered him an upgrade? They might prefer he activate the current option, which would give him an extension with a second option later on. It might be better (for us) than paying him more. It was last time, despite the media circus. Remember, if he had signed a two year extension last time without the POs, he would still be off contract and testing the market right now. The PO hasn't changed that other than the media keeps banging on about it trying to stir up the dopey fans.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Simple, he is looking to renegotiate his contract at a much higher price without the POs.

His agent will go to the club and say 'Look Dyl has been offered $1.2m by X Club for 3 years and will sign a new contract at that price to stay.'
Ryles will say 'That's alright, off you go at end of the year, we now have other plans at a much cheaper price.'
At which time agent will say, 'Wwhat......I was only bluffing.'
JR 'OK, we'll get a new contract to you, 3 years starting at $700k increasing by $100k each year.'
Agent, dejected. 'Dyl will exercise his PO in his current contract.'
JR walks away smirking.

Like I said, if he wants more money to give up the POs he must have given up money when he agreed to them in the first place. Player options cost the player money. Club options cost the club money.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What we hate is the constant argument with pousters (posters) to have the final word no matter what. Argument for argument sake is boring, stupid and juvenile.

You are

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Wow $900k for Dilbo is the cheap version?

You don't know how much he's on.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It’s not a year away. It’s at the end of 2027. That’s it. This every year in his contract is bullshit and reported incorrectly.

Yep, if he activates the option it extends the contract by three years. So he would be on the market again in November 2027, with him here until at least the end of ‘28.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I actually wonder if these journos are actually dumb enough to not understand how these POs work or if they do but are just throwing out misunderstandings to rile up the fans.

ffs

 

[emjaycee]

Yep, if he activates the option it extends the contract by three years. So he would be on the market again in November 2027, with him here until at least the end of ‘28.

Was it 2 options or 3? If it is 2 then I had it wrong earlier and you are right, Nov 2027 not Nov 2026.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nobody has ever seriously called us that.

We’ve made four grand finals in the past forty years, for one win. It’s below average but not the worst in the comp. And in the past five years we’ve been above average, for both wins (highly granular) and grand final appearances (much less granular). Five years is a very small sample in the context of a sporting organisation, but we might’ve turned a corner under the current regime. Or we might’ve just reached the crest of a wave and are now on our way back down. It’s very exciting.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

he sounds like he knows whats going on......

I’m just going off a very large sample of data. Forty years worth, in fact.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We lack resources as a football club is a genuine piss take to win an argument on here.

So why can't posters respond by taking the piss out of those comments.

And does anyone on here seriously believe were a small tin pot club i think the answer is a firm NO.

I never said we are small or tinpot. Over a large sample of years we are about average, with some good years and some bad. Compare that with the likes of Melbourne, Easts and even the Broncos. Those are well resourced clubs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Most of those would fall under "personnel" or "operations" under the common understanding of those things.

The labelling of them as resources detracts from a more common understanding of resources being more like revenue, plant and equipment.
The original discourse on resources seemed (to my reading) more along that common parlance. And my observation is that the majority of posters keep using it in that fashion.

Plant and equipment? We are talking about footy clubs ffs. Even geography is a resource. Tractors and office space can all just be hired with money. Inherent resources include intangibles that can’t be bought, like ownership/governance structure, state owned/provided facilities, benefactors and other wealthy hangers on. Even a huge fanbase, which is one resource we are rich in, but whose importance is overrated by Eels fans.

I actually think we’d benefit a lot more from our fanbase if we could sell our own TV rights.

 

[Grimmace]

Players fitness and body composition isn't the coaches job

The training staffs job is to prepare the players how the coach wants to play. I think the players body shape was a result of the style of game BA wanted to play and the training staff he chose to get them like that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Was it 2 options or 3? If it is 2 then I had it wrong earlier and you are right, Nov 2027 not Nov 2026.

The official announcement was unclear, other than that 2026 and beyond were optional: https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2022/12/19/dylan-brown-re-signs-with-eels/

Unofficially, WWoS reported it as "The first option in Brown's favour is in 2026, with a further option part-way through the six-year period."

Astonishing six-year quirk seals monster deal

Eels gun locked in on new contract

www.nine.com.au

 

[oldmancraigy]

Besides, by definition aren't Human Resources (i.e. people) resources?

Sure! But the caveat is that HR is defined by the word human, as opposed to the more normal application of the word resources. Ie, they are seen as different and therefore defined as such.

People can use the words however they want - far be it from me to declare how the word be used. I'm just sharing my perception of the way people in this forum talk about it. Ie, a well resourced club has lots of your last three things.
Then the other thing people around here talk (whinge?) about is personnel (whom you acquire with the resources) or management (who control the resources).

 

[Pazza]

The training staffs job is to prepare the players how the coach wants to play. I think the players body shape was a result of the style of game BA wanted to play and the training staff he chose to get them like that.

True

By getting rid of RCG and bringing in jack Williams, points to what JR wants to do.

 

[hineyrulz]

So am I.
But it's not so much that he was a fraud, more so that he was past his use by date. By about 5 years.
How he got 11 seasons I'll never understand.

The standards of this club are way lower than others?? Hopefully with Ryles here that will change.

 

[hineyrulz]

Should have kept the AFL Merkin.

Mini Tramps FTW!!!