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Poupou Escobar

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I find it strange no media merkins are talking up Talatainia despite being the best player in SG ball comp this year and a natural replacement at 6? Might need to find a new manager.
He is awesome against a bunch of players who will never play first grade (i.e. most merkins in SG Ball), but maybe his size will stop him making it in the NRL. He's a similar player to Ezra Mam, who is also a defensive liability, and he has elite speed and power. Can Talataina be that good? It's hard to compare, running around against teenagers. But for comparison, Mam played 18 games in reserve grade and 13 in the NRL before his 20th birthday. Talataina turns 20 next year.
 

Johnny88

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NRL spine health check: Every club’s spine depth analysed, which teams are best placed now and for the future
Dylan Brown may be exiting Parramatta but the club has two local playmakers waiting in the wings for their NRL opportunity. MICHAEL CARAYANNIS dissects the health of every club’s spine to see who is best-placed now and in the future.

Lincoln Fletcher and Lachlan Coinakis.
Daly Cherry-Evans’ decision to leave the Sea Eagles has put the blowtorch on every club’s most important combination – their spine.
Manly has two future stars in Onitoni Large and Joey Walsh who will be long-term first graders at the time. But Cherry-Evans’ decision now has them considering a Tom Trbojevic positional switch talent or look to the player market to chase a veteran such Jamal Fogarty to be a bridging halfback while Large and Walsh develop into NRL stars.
“Let’s be fair Joey is a couple of years away,” Manly coach Anthony Seibold said.
“In his first rugby league game in about three years he played very well against the Warriors in Jersey Flegg. He is only 18, scored three tries. He is one for the future. He and Onitoni are very good young players but they are very young.”
On the flip side the Newcastle Knights – off the back of their 10-year deal to Dylan Brown – now have the most settled spine in the game with Kalyn Ponga their next player off-contract and that deal does not expire until the end of 2027.

While Cherry-Evans and Brown have rightly hogged headlines in recent months there are a stack of other impending movements when it comes to those key players including;
• Warriors fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad set to reject a contract extension and instead join a Super League club;
• Newcastle making a move for young St George Illawarra half Lyhkan King-Togia. King-Togia played four NRL games last season. The Dragons are keen to retain him beyond this season but the impending arrival of Daniel Atkinson plus Kyle Flanagan and Lachie Ilias being contracted for next season creates a log-jam;
• Will Pryce set to return to the Super League as early as this year. He has played just five games for Newcastle;
• Young Knights half Jye Linnane is set to ink a long-term deal to join the Warriors; and
• Warriors veteran Te Maire Martin has been linked with an immediate move to Super League club Leigh.
This is how each club’s spine is placed.

. Isaiah Iongi (2027) / Joash Papalii (2027)
6. Dylan Brown (2025)
7. Mitchell Moses (2029) / Dean Hawkins (2026) / Ronald Volkman
9. Brendan Hands (2026) / Joey Lussick (2025) / Ryley Smith (2026)
1. Isaiah Iongi (2027) / Joash Papalii (2027)
6.
7. Mitchell Moses (2029) / Dean Hawkins (2026)
9. Brendan Hands (2026) / Ryley Smith (2026)
Contract status: Were thrown a massive curveball when Dylan Brown opted to join Newcastle. Mitch Moses will finish his career at Parramatta and they have looked to have found a long-term fullback in Isaiah Iongi but the rest of the spine is undecided.
Up and coming: The Eels have banked on two Australian Schoolboys in hooker Lachlan Coinakis and half Lincoln Fletcher with the local products contracted until the end of 2027.

 

JokerEel

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He is awesome against a bunch of players who will never play first grade (i.e. most merkins in SG Ball), but maybe his size will stop him making it in the NRL. He's a similar player to Ezra Mam, who is also a defensive liability, and he has elite speed and power. Can Talataina be that good? It's hard to compare, running around against teenagers. But for comparison, Mam played 18 games in reserve grade and 13 in the NRL before his 20th birthday. Talataina turns 20 next year.


You really need to stop comparing players..
 

Joshuatheeel

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Three years after winning the 2013 grand final, the Roosters only won six games. Was it necessary or an avoidable failure? The answer is we will never know. It's very exciting.
Kenty mentioned that season on his podcast recently...according to him, Robinson went to Politis, and told him they had salary issues, stopping them from improving on their 2015 season. Thus winning the comp wouIdnt happen with that squad. And they had 2 options.

Plodding along for next 2-3 years, making the semis but not being a genuine chance or take all the salary cap pain in 2016 with not winning many games, but "resetting" their cap, allowing them to build a genuine premiership squad....

Politis said do option 2....rest is history...
 

Gary Gutful

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Kenty mentioned that season on his podcast recently...according to him, Robinson went to Politis, and told him they had salary issues, stopping them from improving on their 2015 season. Thus winning the comp wouIdnt happen with that squad. And they had 2 options.

Pod along for next 2-3 years, making the semis but not being a genuine chance or take all the salary cap pain in 2016 with not winning many games, but "resetting" their cap, allowing them to build a genuine premiership squad....

Politis said do option 2....rest is history...
Politis is no fan of podding.
 

Gary Gutful

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NRL spine health check: Every club’s spine depth analysed, which teams are best placed now and for the future
Dylan Brown may be exiting Parramatta but the club has two local playmakers waiting in the wings for their NRL opportunity. MICHAEL CARAYANNIS dissects the health of every club’s spine to see who is best-placed now and in the future.

Lincoln Fletcher and Lachlan Coinakis.
Daly Cherry-Evans’ decision to leave the Sea Eagles has put the blowtorch on every club’s most important combination – their spine.
Manly has two future stars in Onitoni Large and Joey Walsh who will be long-term first graders at the time. But Cherry-Evans’ decision now has them considering a Tom Trbojevic positional switch talent or look to the player market to chase a veteran such Jamal Fogarty to be a bridging halfback while Large and Walsh develop into NRL stars.
“Let’s be fair Joey is a couple of years away,” Manly coach Anthony Seibold said.
“In his first rugby league game in about three years he played very well against the Warriors in Jersey Flegg. He is only 18, scored three tries. He is one for the future. He and Onitoni are very good young players but they are very young.”
On the flip side the Newcastle Knights – off the back of their 10-year deal to Dylan Brown – now have the most settled spine in the game with Kalyn Ponga their next player off-contract and that deal does not expire until the end of 2027.

While Cherry-Evans and Brown have rightly hogged headlines in recent months there are a stack of other impending movements when it comes to those key players including;
• Warriors fullback Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad set to reject a contract extension and instead join a Super League club;
• Newcastle making a move for young St George Illawarra half Lyhkan King-Togia. King-Togia played four NRL games last season. The Dragons are keen to retain him beyond this season but the impending arrival of Daniel Atkinson plus Kyle Flanagan and Lachie Ilias being tcontracted for next season creates a log-jam;
• Will Pryce set to return to the Super League as early as this year. He has played just five games for Newcastle;
• Young Knights half Jye Linnane is set to ink a long-term deal to join the Warriors; and
• Warriors veteran Te Maire Martin has been linked with an immediate move to Super League club Leigh.
This is how each club’s spine is placed.

. Isaiah Iongi (2027) / Joash Papalii (2027)
6. Dylan Brown (2025)
7. Mitchell Moses (2029) / Dean Hawkins (2026) / Ronald Volkman
9. Brendan Hands (2026) / Joey Lussick (2025) / Ryley Smith (2026)
1. Isaiah Iongi (2027) / Joash Papalii (2027)
6.
7. Mitchell Moses (2029) / Dean Hawkins (2026)
9. Brendan Hands (2026) / Ryley Smith (2026)
Contract status: Were thrown a massive curveball when Dylan Brown opted to join Newcastle. Mitch Moses will finish his career at Parramatta and they have looked to have found a long-term fullback in Isaiah Iongi but the rest of the spine is undecided.
Up and coming: The Eels have banked on two Australian Schoolboys in hooker Lachlan Coinakis and half Lincoln Fletcher with the local products contracted until the end of 2027.

That is a diabolical mess of text, but I'm assuming they said our spine sucks arse.
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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Kenty mentioned that season on his podcast recently...according to him, Robinson went to Politis, and told him they had salary issues, stopping them from improving on their 2015 season. Thus winning the comp wouIdnt happen with that squad. And they had 2 options.

Plodding along for next 2-3 years, making the semis but not being a genuine chance or take all the salary cap pain in 2016 with not winning many games, but "resetting" their cap, allowing them to build a genuine premiership squad....

Politis said do option 2....rest is history...
I think this is an after the event bullshit story made up by the Roosters that never happened.

Pearce, Cordner and JWH all missed at least the first 8 weeks of the season... they might not have had a team to win the comp that year, but injuries early in the season meant their season never got going.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Who is better api or lyn?

During the trials i couldn't tell them apart.

Api seemed to have more potential
Lynn seems to be preferred as a half. He has now played 15 games in reserve grade, despite still being eligible for Flegg. Twidle is the same age and has never played reserve grade.
 

emjaycee

Coach
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Our defence is as bad as I can recall over the last decade. Paper thin.
Not true. The last 3 games it has improved considerably compared to times last year and in '23 (and the Round 1 joke this year).

There has been a clear change in how we 'wrestle' and we are now starting to actually focus on getting the tackled player on their backs.

Defensive structure still needs some work but I reckon there are improvements which are masked somewhat by individual players missing simple tackles (Williams and Hopgood v Dogs).
 

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