Rumours and Stuff

[Stevie]

I think I would rather retire then play for the Dragons.

That’s essentially what players do when they go there tbf.

 

[JokerEel]

That’s essentially what players do when they go there tbf.

Who have they bought now for the retirement home.

Klemmer
Cooke
Gutho
Allen
Holmes
Guler

 

[BIG RIG]

Not sure if this is for the religion thread but friend with contacts at Manly saying DCE signing with Dragons for 2 years.

Did he sound confident ??

 

[Stevie]

So I always thought he was leaving Manly to try to win something and Manly desperately wanted him to stay such that money wasn’t an issue.

That was before he blew it up on his own I reckon. Clearly confident of going to the Chooks then his form turned terrible and Billy decided he’s not an Origin half anymore.

IF he does end up at at Dragons, what a dud end to his career when he could have stayed at Manly with a job for life afterwards.

 

[T.S Quint]

Small heaters 2400w suck 10Amps of power and do bugger all. That's about 80cents and hour.
Put in a split AC. 5kw inverted will suck about 4Amps and warm 5 x the space.

Well I doubt my small heater does bugger all considering my house is warm in winter.

I’ll be putting in a split system at some stage. Meant to do it last year but we had other expenses come up that were more of an immediate need.

 

[Pazza]

So I always thought he was leaving Manly to try to win something and Manly desperately wanted him to stay such that money wasn’t an issue.

Tbh I'm not sure

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What the hell are you talking about? What a shit strawman.

Strawman? This from a bloke equating Adam Doueihi's comments about an embarrassing social media post to slavery or murder.

Again, what are you talking about? Care to give some examples?

The plight of religious minorities in China is an obvious example. Closer to home we have the debate about whether abortion is murder.

You’re starting to become the Jordan Peterson of LU. What other “paradigm” would you use to describe the word bigotry? Are you going to claim that the word bigoted doesn’t have a consensus meaning that we ascribe to it today?

When some people think discrimination against white people/men/heterosexuals/Christians is justified then no, we don't have consensus on what is meant by bigotry.

What have I said that’s bigoted? To not oppress marginalised groups? If someone justifies the murder of people outside their religion (eg the September 11 bombers) Is it bigoted of me to “rail” against it?

You don't even think they should be free to discuss their opinions in public.

So why is slavery wrong according to your semantics if railing against it is being bigoted towards religious people who support it?


Apostasy is a “shitty behaviour” punishable by death according to fundamentalist Muslims. Does this mean you defend their right to murder me if that’s their worldview?

Here you go with the strawmen. We are talking about comments on social media, not slavery or capital punishment.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Faith is not a prerequisite for morality. People can live ethical, compassionate and meaningful lives by relying on reason, empathy, life experience and the values we share as human beings — without needing to reference scriptures or anything supernatural.

You have a lot of faith in other human beings to think your values (as someone who benefits massively from the status quo) should be their values too.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They were also dictators, I’m not sure atheism was the driving factor, unlike the crusades and the 30 year war they didn’t use the cover of religion as the driving factor to control people which was the point of my original post.

They used the cover of ideologies that are underpinned by atheism. They controlled people through appealing to working class and nationalist resentment. Religion wasn't a requirement.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Probably explains why their CEO is sprouting about looking to buy an established halfback.

I am so glad we didn't get Flanno.. He is buying old players to scrap into the 8 to make himself look better than he is instead of investing on the future developing.

A coach's job is to win games, not build a roster for the next guy to benefit from. It's why coaches don't do recruitment.

 

[RustedonEel]

Who have they bought now for the retirement home.

Klemmer
Cooke
Gutho
Allen
Holmes
Guler

Agree with all but Holmes. Still good enough to play Origin.

 

[JokerEel]

A coach's job is to win games, not build a roster for the next guy to benefit from. It's why coaches don't do recruitment.

I would dispute this and I think everyone has coaches do recruitment by being involved in who they recruit.

A coaches job is to build a roster that's going to give you long term success.
If you are going to go for the short term success you will be out of a job in 2-3 years.

 

[JokerEel]

Agree with all but Holmes. Still good enough to play Origin.

Yeah Holmes is still good, though they did have Tamala in their juniors but couldn't keep him.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It is a strange side ways move for DCE to go to the Dragons. He isn’t winning anything there.

He's already achieved everything he can in the game. If he goes to St George it will be for the money. You can never have too much of that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

2 years on 800k or so, he won't ever make kind of money ever again.

ffs

And there's only room for one well-spoken but dull former player in the media and Cooper Cronk isn't giving up that sweet gig any time soon.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So I always thought he was leaving Manly to try to win something and Manly desperately wanted him to stay such that money wasn’t an issue.

If he wanted to win another premiership, he would've left Manly back when the Penn family took full ownership of the club.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I would dispute this and I think everyone has coaches do recruitment by being involved in who they recruit.

They get a say, along with a bunch of other merkins at the club, including the senior players. But they don't make unilateral decisions. The club comes first.

A coaches job is to build a roster that's going to give you long term success.

If you are going to go for the short term success you will be out of a job in 2-3 years.

There needs to be a bare minimum of short term success. The fans won't cop otherwise. Whether the coach is blamed for short term failure depends on his length of tenure, but every premiership window ends. Usually it's the coach who pays for it.

 

[Twizzle]

Small heaters 2400w suck 10Amps of power and do bugger all. That's about 80cents and hour.

they do 2.4 kw worth of work which isn't bugger all

Put in a split AC. 5kw inverted will suck about 4Amps and warm 5 x the space.

5 kw is obviously double that of 2.4 kw so not 5 times the space and a 5 kwr split system draws around 6 or 7 amps depending on the brand and whether they are on heating or cooling, as they draw slightly more on heating

 

[Twizzle]

Ol' mate Doggies fan at my local was telling me how they are not impressed with Galvin and allegedly already unrest at the camp on how he was parachuted straight into the NRL team, reckons they should have kept Sexton.

All just pub talk of course.

They've lost both games that he played in

 

[lucablight]

Strawman? This from a bloke equating Adam Doueihi's comments about an embarrassing social media post to slavery or murder.

The plight of religious minorities in China is an obvious example. Closer to home we have the debate about whether abortion is murder.

When some people think discrimination against white people/men/heterosexuals/Christians is justified then no, we don't have consensus on what is meant by bigotry.

You don't even think they should be free to discuss their opinions in public.

Here you go with the strawmen. We are talking about comments on social media, not slavery or capital punishment.

You’ve tied yourself into alot of knots where you contradict your own arguments, misrepresent what I’m saying or you dodge answering the question. I’m happy to continue this discussion if it can be moved elsewhere but I don’t want to clog the rumours/signings thread with endless talk on this topic.