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Poupou Escobar

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I hope so. I'm not disagreeing cause he has some potential but I think its hard to tell after 15 games. Some were good and some were horrid. It isnt like when Isaiah Papali'i debut and we knew we had a gun edge player
Papali’i came to the club as a 22 year old with 60+ games under his belt. Kautoga was the same age but had only played three NRL games.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Yeah Lazy is the word. He’s big body but gets dominated.
I agree he needs to get more involved. Also needs to work on defence. But he is only 19.

But regarding getting dominated, this is a good example where the "eye test" (assuming that is how you determined that), isn't supported by stats. Stats actually show, he is a pretty "powerful" forward and does not get dominated.

He played 7 NSW cup games averaging 6 runs for 58 m, 24 pc.

Breaking this down, he averaged 10.49 metres a run and 41% of his metres are post contact. That's pretty good, hardly an indicator of being dominated (also factoring in, he is only 19). It's no wonder, the club rate him.
 
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I agree with this.. I don't see why he was given a chance to train with the first grade side last year.

Looked lazy compared to a few of the other Ball guys and also when he played for the NSW side.

Petrus is a goer still not a huge body yet but still gives 100%. Should have been given time with the NRL team during this pre season..

Latu I rated 2 seasons ago now I don't have him kicking on.
Catchy hairstyle maybe
 

Gary Gutful

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What percentage of pous post do you think are antagonising??????? and that’s being kind, get back to me

FYI. He’s been spewing this shit for 20 years since your talking about time spent poorly
30-40%, but they are normally in response to someone antagonising him. If you look at his tone and compare it to Hineyrulz, Avenger or even Bandwagon I think it’s pretty mild.

People like Pou and Gronk might rub people up the wrong way with what they say, but they cop an absolute shit tonne of abuse from people on here. A lot of circle jerk pile ons.

Not everyone though. Plenty of people tackle the issue rather than the man.
 

hindy111

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Papali’i came to the club as a 22 year old with 60+ games under his belt. Kautoga was the same age but had only played three NRL games.

Well yeah. And as you've mentioned before the best players are in NRL by 20yrs old. Backs usually by 18/19. Kitone was 22.
I dont agree with your age thing anyhows. Injuries and mentality could hamper development. I hope he does turn into a star amd Gus has egg on his face
 

Avenger

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30-40%, but they are normally in response to someone antagonising him. If you look at his tone and compare it to Hineyrulz, Avenger or even Bandwagon I think it’s pretty mild.

People like Pou and Gronk might rub people up the wrong way with what they say, but they cop an absolute shit tonne of abuse from people on here. A lot of circle jerk pile ons.

Not everyone though. Plenty of people tackle the issue rather than the man.
Calling it “mild” is just selective blindness dressed up as balance. The tone isn’t the issue — the intent is. Pou and Gronk don’t just “rub people the wrong way,” they provoke, condescend, and then play the victim when they get pushback.


As for the so-called “circle jerk pile ons,” that’s a lazy excuse trotted out whenever their arguments collapse under scrutiny. People respond because the takes are rubbish, not because there’s some coordinated vendetta.
 

Gary Gutful

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Calling it “mild” is just selective blindness dressed up as balance. The tone isn’t the issue — the intent is. Pou and Gronk don’t just “rub people the wrong way,” they provoke, condescend, and then play the victim when they get pushback.


As for the so-called “circle jerk pile ons,” that’s a lazy excuse trotted out whenever their arguments collapse under scrutiny. People respond because the takes are rubbish, not because there’s some coordinated vendetta.
Yeah. I get that you see it that way but I happen to disagree. Lots of times I’m sure a number of you have walked away thinking you ‘owned’ Pou or Gronk. I have seen you say as much.

I’ve read the same conversation and wondered where the f**k you got that idea. Sometimes it feels like a case of emotion v logic. Not always, but it’s a pattern.

I’m not immune from it either. Don’t know if you’ve ever re-read exchanges on here? I find it enlightening because there is a record as opposed to a face-to-face conversation where you quickly forget the details.
 

hindy111

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30-40%, but they are normally in response to someone antagonising him. If you look at his tone and compare it to Hineyrulz, Avenger or even Bandwagon I think it’s pretty mild.

People like Pou and Gronk might rub people up the wrong way with what they say, but they cop an absolute shit tonne of abuse from people on here. A lot of circle jerk pile ons.

Not everyone though. Plenty of people tackle the issue rather than the man.

I reckon TONE is quite hard to determine via something someone's typed including sms/txts. And even harder when you haven't met the person like most people we interact with on here. Sarcasm, joking and banter is easily mistaken as insults or being a smart arse , bully etc.

Ultimately but who gives a shit
 

Gary Gutful

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I reckon TONE is quite hard to determine via something someone's typed including sms/txts. And even harder when you haven't met the person like most on here. Sarcasm, joking and banter is easily mistaken as insults or being a smart arse , bully etc.
Fair point. Tone can definitely be misread. I’m sure I’ve done it plenty of times and I know I’m not alone.
 
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I reckon TONE is quite hard to determine via something someone's typed including sms/txts. And even harder when you haven't met the person like most people we interact with on here. Sarcasm, joking and banter is easily mistaken as insults or being a smart arse , bully etc.

Ultimately but who gives a shit
I've had a lot of stuff taken the wrong way on here. I also realise in hindsight sometimes that I have too.
Yes I can be openly hostile too. I'm working on it.




Practice makes perfect lol. joke joyces.
 

Tiger5150

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Catchy hairstyle maybe
I call it the Aaron Woods effect. There area heap of players who ( I think intentionally) adopt an unusual/weird hairstyle because it makes them noticeable on the field and their fame/reputation is increased as a result. I reckon you can add Josh Curran in this list of players who would remain relatively obscure otherwise.

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Avenger

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Yeah. I get that you see it that way but I happen to disagree. Lots of times I’m sure a number of you have walked away thinking you ‘owned’ Pou or Gronk. I have seen you say as much.

I’ve read the same conversation and wondered where the f**k you got that idea. Sometimes it feels like a case of emotion v logic. Not always, but it’s a pattern.

I’m not immune from it either. Don’t know if you’ve ever re-read exchanges on here? I find it enlightening because there is a record as opposed to a face-to-face conversation where you quickly forget the details.
It’s not for me to judge who “owned” who — I’m simply calling out nonsense when I see it. If you agree with it, that’s your right. Everyone gets a say here in the court of public opinion, but only a select few have earned the title of registered f**kwit. And I’d have no issue telling them exactly that in person — aquarium or otherwise.
 

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