Rumours and Stuff

[emjaycee]

You need to earn the right to play 'ad lib' and that comes from practising and playing structured until it is built into muscle memory (effectively) and then you have an instant fall back to what works if the ad lib lets you down.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Playing “unstructured” reminds me of that Kenny Rogers song about the hobo who steals Kenny’s booze and then dies on a train

Don’t know that one. Can you sing a couple of verses?

 

[85 Baby]

Don’t know that one. Can you sing a couple of verses?

Let’s be honest here, how many Kenny Rogers songs can you name? Because I didn’t say it was the one with the duet with the giant cans.
It’s the one where Kenny possibly confesses to murdering a train hobo in his sleep because he gave shit advice.

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

No offence but i don’t get Why would this person would be so explicit and open with you in regards to clubs issues which unfortunately there’s a few?

Yep....

Sounds like a disgruntled employee willing to sling shit at the management and sounds over exaggerated to me...

 

[Gary Gutful]

Let’s be honest here, how many Kenny Rogers songs can you name? Because I didn’t say it was the one with the duet with the giant cans.
It’s the one where Kenny possibly confesses to murdering a train hobo in his sleep because he gave shit advice.

I only know Don’t let the sun go down on me.

 

[Zoso]

Yep....

Sounds like a disgruntled employee willing to sling shit at the management and sounds over exaggerated to me...

Could be. People also take small isolated events and weave that into something bigger. And it’s inevitable in organisations of any size people will become unhappy. Even when teams/companies are succeeding people will get their noses out of joint through ego and petty jealousies.
All that said, seems the only people happy with the recruitment team are the recruitment team!!

 

[Gronk]

Yep....

Sounds like a disgruntled employee willing to sling shit at the management and sounds over exaggerated to me...

It had me until the 123 Jim is a idiot or whatever. As if grown men would do that.

 

[Tiger5150]

I only know Don’t let the sun go down on me.

*son

 

[The Predictor]

Yes the Gutho thing is a little perplexing. He wasn't pushed out the door, he was offered a new position, and even he must realise he is falling below most fullbacks now. He took the option to extend his career with another club and that is on him. Honestly some of these footballers are just whingers and have an inflated sense of worth! Obviously he is one of them!

I believe it though, his mother burnt all his Parra gear once he joined the dragons, low class people

 

[85 Baby]

I only know Don’t let the sun go down on me.

We’re at risk here of encouraging parrapat

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I believe it though, his mother burnt all his Parra gear once he joined the dragons, low class people

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We’re at risk here of encouraging parrapat

The music's not going to die on his watch.

 

[hineyrulz]

All that matters is what he thought his best position was, and we didn't have a vacancy there.

Until we did.

The genius of PO’s.

 

[hineyrulz]

It had me until the 123 Jim is an idiot or whatever. As if grown men would do that.

How many players would even know the CEO?? Or enough to chant about him at training.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Until we did.

The genius of PO’s.

We still would've had a vacancy without the PO. It made no difference.

 

[85 Baby]

We still would've had a vacancy without the PO. It made no difference.

The problem is that the PO created uncertainty about whether he was staying, not whether he was leaving. If Brown was definitively off contract then we’d have had the option to go “we can’t afford Brown” (which you know is coded) and retain Talagi, but we can’t force Brown to not take up the PO.

I have no problem using options but even in no option list management, there’s going to be players/value coming on and off at differing times, options increase the variables and I question whether the club is capable of successfully controlling that

 

[pazzaeel]

I think JR is on the right path. The footy we were playing at the back end of last year (attack and defence) was the most enjoyable to watch for ages.

JR has only been here for 1 season. He has already got rid of players who don't "buy in". He will get rid of more if they don't want to be here.

I think if we have success this year - top 8 (but preferably top 6) with some younger players really stepping up, we will be a more attractive club for signings. I am concerned about MON and Jim's ability to get signing's across the line, but they obviously don't want to pay overs whilst we aren't that attractive in regards to premiership window - considering previous disaster signings, i can respect that. Big name players e.g. KK, don't change clubs that often anymore. Mid tier players from strong clubs do move around more, but they often don't perform at the same level when they are in an inferior team.

I think JR is looking for - players who want to be at parra, players who want to buy in, players who love footy and are going to go out there and give it everything week in week out. If you can develop those players to be good at there specific job, you will win a lot of games. He doesn't want wankers with ego's.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

I only know Don’t let the sun go down on me.

*son

I thought it was "Oh let your. . . . " I'll see myself out

 

[King-Gutho94]

Yes the Gutho thing is a little perplexing. He wasn't pushed out the door, he was offered a new position, and even he must realise he is falling below most fullbacks now. He took the option to extend his career with another club and that is on him. Honestly some of these footballers are just whingers and have an inflated sense of worth! Obviously he is one of them!

Well he is from Cromer on the Northern Beaches i think there can be a sense of entitlement for some of those that are brought up from that area compared to Western Sydney.

You only have to see Manly fans in person what a bunch of self entitled knobs who have no respect for anyone that has to cross the Roseville or Spit bridge from Western Sydney in particular.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The problem is that the PO created uncertainty about whether he was staying, not whether he was leaving. If Brown was definitively off contract then we’d have had the option to go “we can’t afford Brown” (which you know is coded) and retain Talagi, but we can’t force Brown to not take up the PO.

I have no problem using options but even in no option list management, there’s going to be players/value coming on and off at differing times, options increase the variables and I question whether the club is capable of successfully controlling that

I agree there’s uncertainty with the PO, just like a player has uncertainty with a CO. That’s why clubs and players don’t give these things away for free. But the CO isn’t the reason we lost Drown or Talagi. We had already decided to keep Drown at 6, which is why we gave him the PO in the first place. Given we were committed to keeping Drown, Talagi at 6 wasn’t an option. He wasn’t going to hang around just in case Drown decided to leave. Penrith could give him the 6 jersey straight away.