Sack Griffin

[jodragon40]

We got the Tits twice and the Dolphins so, fingers crossed.

The club looks as though they are backing Hook. It's not working, the players seem to be getting the short straw and it to hard for the club to anything to fix it.

I believe we will finish 12th

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

We got the Tits twice and the Dolphins so, fingers crossed.

The club looks as though they are backing Hook. It's not working, the players seem to be getting the short straw and it to hard for the club to anything to fix it.

Titans will not be easy beats, well not for us anyway..

 

[Gomarchin]

Dragons v Dolphins. Loser = spoon.

 

[Maximus]

I'm worried that by round 10 we will already be out of contention. We are disinterested, he lost the change sheds after the BBQ and our performances since tell the tale. No footy come September once again

Remember that the BBQ happened because the players refused to accept a direct instruction. He possibly lost the squad before the BBQ. In fact, I think the squad was lost before Hook even arrived.

The fact that Vaughan went and ignored Gould's instructions after Barrett resigned would indicate the issue is more with the players attitude than the coach. Which is also why a senior player like Sims wasn't invited or told about it.

 

[Mojo]

The fact that Vaughan went and ignored Gould's instructions after Barrett resigned would indicate the issue is more with the players attitude than the coach. Which is also why a senior player like Sims wasn't invited or told about it.

Yes. It's pretty clear there were (are still?) some major shit disturbers in the squad. I think it's also clear that Hook has tried to change things. It obviously hasn't worked though. I reckon there's some really serious shit going on under the surface.

 

[jodragon40]

Yes. It's pretty clear there were (are still?) some major shit disturbers in the squad. I think it's also clear that Hook has tried to change things. It obviously hasn't worked though. I reckon there's some really serious shit going on under the surface.

When a coach loses the change sheds then its best you acknowledge that your time is up and move on.

 

[mickeylane]

Yes. It's pretty clear there were (are still?) some major shit disturbers in the squad. I think it's also clear that Hook has tried to change things. It obviously hasn't worked though. I reckon there's some really serious shit going on under the surface.

i agree and im guessing there are 2 player camps...the Hunt camp and the Lomax Camp..the Hunt camp supports Hook 100% and the the other mob (Lomax, Lawrie, Sloan, Feagais, Sua, Sulli, Bird etc...are against Hook..) I honestly think the shit w hit the fan a nd Hook goes within 4 weeks...Hasler w stroll in on a 2 year deal

 

[Parko1310]

i agree and im guessing there are 2 player camps...the Hunt camp and the Lomax Camp..the Hunt camp supports Hook 100% and the the other mob (Lomax, Lawrie, Sloan, Feagais, Sua, Sulli, Bird etc...are against Hook..) I honestly think the shit w hit the fan a nd Hook goes within 4 weeks...Hasler w stroll in on a 2 year deal

I can't in anyway be 100% certain but I don't know that Lomax sits in either camp, I get the feeling he may be on the outer of the playing group. Keeping in mind this is just my speculation and I may be reading too much into it, but he doesn't seem all too often to be up on photos on social media with teammates, especially the younger ones. I suppose that would place him closer to the Hunt camp if anything. There are 100% cliques within the group though.

 

[Mojo]

My gut feel is that Hunt dominates and the squad is loosely and randomly split. My sense is that Lomax thinks it’s just too much BS and resents it. Just a guess.

 

[blacksafake]

i agree and im guessing there are 2 player camps...the Hunt camp and the Lomax Camp..the Hunt camp supports Hook 100% and the the other mob (Lomax, Lawrie, Sloan, Feagais, Sua, Sulli, Bird etc...are against Hook..) I honestly think the shit w hit the fan a nd Hook goes within 4 weeks...Hasler w stroll in on a 2 year deal

Don’t think Hasler is the answer

 

[justadragon]

Don’t think Hasler is the answer

If you could keep him under control with the SC, surely he couldnt be any worse.

 

[blacksafake]

If you could keep him under control with the SC, surely he couldnt be any worse.

Good luck with that.
History shows he’s too much of a control freak & we’ve apparently just got our cap in order & there’s no way the club will give him the chequebook

 

[Maximus]

When a coach loses the change sheds then its best you acknowledge that your time is up and move on.

So had Gould lost the change sheds when Vaughan went and completely ignored his instructions? Shit people will be shit people no matter who the coach is

 

[possm]

i agree and im guessing there are 2 player camps...the Hunt camp and the Lomax Camp..the Hunt camp supports Hook 100% and the the other mob (Lomax, Lawrie, Sloan, Feagais, Sua, Sulli, Bird etc...are against Hook..) I honestly think the shit w hit the fan a nd Hook goes within 4 weeks...Hasler w stroll in on a 2 year deal

Yes please But why wait for 4 weeks, sack both Hook and Haran NOW.

 

[BLM01]

Good luck with that.
History shows he’s too much of a control freak & we’ve apparently just got our cap in order & there’s no way the club will give him the chequebook

But we need a control freak because it is spiralling ATM
Ban. ..Haran
Oust Doust
Hook is cooked

 

[blacksafake]

But we need a control freak because it is spiralling ATM
Ban. ..Haran
Oust Doust
Hook is cooked

Agreed but for me not Des.
If a hard nosed coach is needed then let’s have a look at Flanno or Madge. Hell even Morris would be better.

 

[Draginzaaar]

I can't in anyway be 100% certain but I don't know that Lomax sits in either camp, I get the feeling he may be on the outer of the playing group. Keeping in mind this is just my speculation and I may be reading too much into it, but he doesn't seem all too often to be up on photos on social media with teammates, especially the younger ones. I suppose that would place him closer to the Hunt camp if anything. There are 100% cliques within the group though.

Saw a photo of him and Slone in civies just yesterday.

 

[Dragons154]

He has to go. The club is in denial or just doesn't care.

Just pay him out. At half time, no players were looking at him let alone listening to him.

I’d suggest that the club doesn’t care.
We are legitimately heading for a spoon, and the club does not give a shit.

 

[Dragon David]

Agreed but for me not Des.
If a hard nosed coach is needed then let’s have a look at Flanno or Madge. Hell even Morris would be better.

Gee it's hard deciding on who our next coach should be blacksafake. Even if we had Bellamy, Robinson, Bennett, Cleary, .......Flanno, Madge or Hasler, would they be capable of turning us around with the total squad we currently have? Nearly half of our players need to go and to pay the sort of money needed to get replacements that we have for a long time identified, will require that coach and someone of high standing from the club to lure them across. I don't know. To me it seems too hard a task. We keep going around and around and we continually have to rebuild.

It wouldn't be too bad if you had already a nucleus of a good squad and you just need to tweak a few players here and there but not as many tweaks as we need to do to maintain a good team for every year.

For example, if you take the Roosters, they know that they will lose a couple of players each year and they work on who they can get to replace them ages beforehand. They just tweak a bit here and there to fill the numbers to an already solid squad. Same as the Storm and several other successful clubs.

We could gradually do the same, but can we wait years and years to achieve this?

 

[blacksafake]

Gee it's hard deciding on who our next coach should be blacksafake. Even if we had Bellamy, Robinson, Bennett, Cleary, .......Flanno, Madge or Hasler, would they be capable of turning us around with the total squad we currently have? Nearly half of our players need to go and to pay the sort of money needed to get replacements that we have for a long time identified, will require that coach and someone of high standing from the club to lure them across. I don't know. To me it seems too hard a task. We keep going around and around and we continually have to rebuild.

It wouldn't be too bad if you had already a nucleus of a good squad and you just need to tweak a few players here and there but not as many tweaks as we need to do to maintain a good team for every year.

For example, if you take the Roosters, they know that they will lose a couple of players each year and they work on who they can get to replace them ages beforehand. They just tweak a bit here and there to fill the numbers to an already solid squad. Same as the Storm and several other successful clubs.

We could gradually do the same, but can we wait years and years to achieve this?

It’s a dog’s breakfast @Dragon David