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Sack mcgregor

avocado

avocado

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RufusRex said:
Posted this in JA with respect to Mary ... will add it in here ...

Lets delve into how good Mary is for us and how his decision making is simply amazing.

1. Nene McDonald. - Played on the left to start the year - scored some good tries. Injured and returned at which point SuperCoach popped him back onto the right and try scoring on both the left and right edge evaporated. All so a debutant could have left wing.

2. Luciano Leilua - Close to the most unique edge forward in the game in terms of size, hands, skill. Comes on in the Semi Final vs the bunnies and the game plan if that is what it is gave him a single possession. Where is the indivudual strategies to maximise the abilities of all the players in the team. There is no point forcing Luc into the bash and barge power game.

3. Tyson Frizell - Constantly rated highly amongst the players as an edge and managed to not score a single try running off the outside of Hunt all season. a play that Hunt/Gillett were able to use in Brisbane and one where Sims scored within 15 minutes of playing right edge. Instead Friz continues to run back on the inside. However no support/no plan to use that run to generate attacking opportunities ie Dufty in support

4. Euan Aitken - three years we have endured his ineffective defense at right centre. This year again he led centres for try causes. No improvement. No being dropped. It wasnt until he was injured that Lomax got a chance and from that point i think we conceded one try on the right. Aitkens weaknesses are so obvious yet there is seemingly no improvement in his game

5. Nightingale - LOL .. at least one if not two season too many. Thankfully he realised that one late in the season.

6. McInness - Two seasons workload is impressive for him however the obvious correlation between his workload and running game is apparant. One game i can remember him being interchanged off. The difference at the end of the final between Cook/McInnes and gameplan to get into position to kick the field goals was amazingly obvious.

7. Interchange - Well documented. No point belabouring that one. Worst use of bench rotations in the league.

8. Development - 5min game time at the end of a decided game is apparantly a succession plan. The early season treatment of Lomax/Robson in partiular but also Sele/Host/Lawrie was detrimental to their development.

9. Reaction to opposition - No ability to change it up. Persisting with one out running off a short pass from dummyhalf when faced with aggressive fast line speed. No getting Hunt/Widdop into first receiver Thurston style and playing the game one or two passes wider to limit the impact of that fast arrow defense.

10. Attacking kicking game - Nene proven to be dynamic in the air but rarely set up for bombs to him. widdop kicking into legs too often. We did generate a reasonable amount of repeat sets from kicks which is good but we probably could have kicked more pointedly to the wings than we did.

11. Field goals - LOL ...

12. Bomb Diffusal - Pereira showed those around him what was required. Dufty is quick but exploited way to often by being poorly positioned and unable to contest the bombs.

13. Blockers - Watch how often our wingers are isolated on bombs and forced into contested leaps as opposed to what we do at the other end. Structure on defensive bombs is very poor. Aitken in particular.
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Well constructed post. Just made me even angrier. Thanks heaps.
 
Dragonslayer

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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RufusRex said:
Posted this in JA with respect to Mary ... will add it in here ...

Lets delve into how good Mary is for us and how his decision making is simply amazing.

1. Nene McDonald. - Played on the left to start the year - scored some good tries. Injured and returned at which point SuperCoach popped him back onto the right and try scoring on both the left and right edge evaporated. All so a debutant could have left wing.

2. Luciano Leilua - Close to the most unique edge forward in the game in terms of size, hands, skill. Comes on in the Semi Final vs the bunnies and the game plan if that is what it is gave him a single possession. Where is the indivudual strategies to maximise the abilities of all the players in the team. There is no point forcing Luc into the bash and barge power game.

3. Tyson Frizell - Constantly rated highly amongst the players as an edge and managed to not score a single try running off the outside of Hunt all season. a play that Hunt/Gillett were able to use in Brisbane and one where Sims scored within 15 minutes of playing right edge. Instead Friz continues to run back on the inside. However no support/no plan to use that run to generate attacking opportunities ie Dufty in support

4. Euan Aitken - three years we have endured his ineffective defense at right centre. This year again he led centres for try causes. No improvement. No being dropped. It wasnt until he was injured that Lomax got a chance and from that point i think we conceded one try on the right. Aitkens weaknesses are so obvious yet there is seemingly no improvement in his game

5. Nightingale - LOL .. at least one if not two season too many. Thankfully he realised that one late in the season.

6. McInness - Two seasons workload is impressive for him however the obvious correlation between his workload and running game is apparant. One game i can remember him being interchanged off. The difference at the end of the final between Cook/McInnes and gameplan to get into position to kick the field goals was amazingly obvious.

7. Interchange - Well documented. No point belabouring that one. Worst use of bench rotations in the league.

8. Development - 5min game time at the end of a decided game is apparantly a succession plan. The early season treatment of Lomax/Robson in partiular but also Sele/Host/Lawrie was detrimental to their development.

9. Reaction to opposition - No ability to change it up. Persisting with one out running off a short pass from dummyhalf when faced with aggressive fast line speed. No getting Hunt/Widdop into first receiver Thurston style and playing the game one or two passes wider to limit the impact of that fast arrow defense.

10. Attacking kicking game - Nene proven to be dynamic in the air but rarely set up for bombs to him. widdop kicking into legs too often. We did generate a reasonable amount of repeat sets from kicks which is good but we probably could have kicked more pointedly to the wings than we did.

11. Field goals - LOL ...

12. Bomb Diffusal - Pereira showed those around him what was required. Dufty is quick but exploited way to often by being poorly positioned and unable to contest the bombs.

13. Blockers - Watch how often our wingers are isolated on bombs and forced into contested leaps as opposed to what we do at the other end. Structure on defensive bombs is very poor. Aitken in particular.
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Yep, excellent summary.

Just on point 1 - Nene McDonald. He was the left wing until he was injured, his place taken on the left by Periera (debut against the Cowboys), with Nighty on the right. When McDonald returned he was listed as #19, and replaced Nighty on the right, and that's the way it stayed for reasons unknown. It will remain one of the great mysteries of 2018, why a specialist left winger remained on the right, and a guy who's played most of his career on the right remained on the left.
 
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Warabrook saint

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Dragonslayer said:
Yep, excellent summary.

Just on point 1 - Nene McDonald. He was the left wing until he was injured, his place taken on the left by Periera (debut against the Cowboys), with Nighty on the right. When McDonald returned he was listed as #19, and replaced Nighty on the right, and that's the way it stayed for reasons unknown. It will remain one of the great mysteries of 2018, why a specialist left winger remained on the right, and a guy who's played most of his career on the right remained on the left.
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Probably why Mcdonald wanted out
 
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SBD82

Coach
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Dragonslayer said:
Yep, excellent summary.

Just on point 1 - Nene McDonald. He was the left wing until he was injured, his place taken on the left by Periera (debut against the Cowboys), with Nighty on the right. When McDonald returned he was listed as #19, and replaced Nighty on the right, and that's the way it stayed for reasons unknown. It will remain one of the great mysteries of 2018, why a specialist left winger remained on the right, and a guy who's played most of his career on the right remained on the left.
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McGregor's theory on this is that he plays his least experienced winger with his most experienced centre.

It's a shit theory, but that's the theory.
 
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watatank

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I think McGregor was just reluctant to move Pereira to the right and Macdonald had already played enough right wing and that was that.
 
Gareth67

Gareth67

First Grade
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Why fix it if it’s not broken ? so said Pa Kettle . The trouble was that by the time he finally realized that it was indeed broken , the bluudy thing had fallen to pieces .
 
grouch

grouch

First Grade
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BLM01 said:
86....Why Holbrook?. What has he done to date even when at our club?
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He won 2 NSW Cup premierships as coach of the Bulldogs before joining us, then took our unfancied Under 20's to a prelim final.

We did one of our "reviews" and decided he needed to go. He was such a dud that he ended up at the Roosters as Trent Robinsons assistant, before going to St Helens and leading them to a minor premiership in his first year.
 
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getsmarty

Immortal
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BLM01 said:
86....Why Holbrook?. What has he done to date even when at our club?
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Apparently we are not interested in older established coaches. They are after a younger coach who will fit into our system..Holbrook is an old boy and has at least had experience in the English league...there are others of merit like O'Brien..who is at Easts and was formally under Bellamy....

We are stuck with the current coach unless something changes drastically.

P.S I'd take Holbrook over Mary...Mary has been here since May 2014...........it's time for that experiment to end.
 
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