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perverse

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This explains a fair bit. FFS, if the guys are getting mixed up in the issues of the Real Housewives of Newcastle, the leadership needs some serious shaking up - top to bottom.
Yeah I mean plain and simple it's up to leaders in the club to sort stuff like this out. CEO. Coach. Captain.
 

Old dog

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How does Hastings partner say something to upset another players partner and it affects Ponga?
Does Ponga have a partner and the player whose partner is upset must be limited to a few and regular 1st grader.
Get them involved all together, sorry’s, apologies, move on
 

Apey

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How does Hastings partner say something to upset another players partner and it affects Ponga?
Does Ponga have a partner and the player whose partner is upset must be limited to a few and regular 1st grader.
Get them involved all together, sorry’s, apologies, move on
No, the implication is that Hastings being picked would unlock Ponga again (lol).

I agree Hastings is a better option than Cogger but most media folk just flat out don't watch the sport, because Hastings is no saviour and is pretty cooked as a player. Hes only worth considering because Cogger is that bad.

I can't wait until Hastings is gone so I don't have to hear rubbish about him solving our problems.
 

mozza91

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I’ve heard from a source much closer to the group than Weidler that the Hastings vs the other players feud is massively overstated. It’s more of a Hastings/coaches issue.
 

Woody90

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Are people forgetting amongst all of this that Hastings just isnt very good? I get the real housewives of Newy theory sounds more interesting, but the blokes form took a massive nose dive when he was injured at the backend of 2023 and he never recovered.

I do think he’s better than Cogger, but not so much better that he’s going to make a significant difference and solve this. I don’t think he’s better than Gamble regardless of the number on their back.

Swapping Hastings in for either of them is just re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic at this point.
 

Mr_Knightside

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I would put Hastings in there purely because it feels like now or never. Our next three games are probably the most winnable we’re going to get for a while and we could potentially get ourselves back to a 5-5 record and give us some chance of doing something this year, or at least discovering a bit of mojo again.

Honestly, if we lose to Souths next weekend without all their best players on the field (highly possible) then it’s season done. So why not put Hastings in the team for a few weeks and see if he can get something going?
 

mozza91

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It’s definitely a big chance for us to make something of the season. Keep playing the way we have and we won’t beat anyone. But if they can get J Saf and Elliot back this week against a weakened Bunnies side and pull their finger out. I reckon they just need the 1 win to get some confidence back.

Zero faith they do it though.
 
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This in Danny Weidler’s column today in smh:

Rugby league’s most exciting attacking weapon Kalyn Ponga is being stymied by a player feud that is making it impossible to pick one of the Knights’ big-name playmakers.

Newcastle’s stuttering attack is one of the talking points of the league, as is their persistent swapping of halves. An obvious solution to their problems, purely on the playing front, would be the selection of Jackson Hastings, who has previously helped bring Ponga to life.

However, Hastings appears to be the last person the Knights would pick to play first grade, and it has been difficult to work out why he is on the outer.

This column has been made aware of a falling out largely between one of the team’s leaders and Hastings. The matter relates to their wives not seeing eye to eye over a comment Hastings’ partner made. As a consequence, the player has told people at the club of his feelings and the club has backed one of their most respected players.

The club has knowledge of the dispute but says that is not why Hastings is being left out of the team.

That is difficult to accept given the halves crisis.

There have been other minor issues with Hastings, but it seems that one is the most difficult for the club to overcome. The result is the Knights’ best halfback, who is paid about $800,000 this year, has not been given a chance in the top grade by coach Adam O’Brien.

It’s an ugly situation and this column is not aware of attempts to resolve it, but if the Knights’ season continues to spiral out of control, and they continue to struggle to score points, it may have to be addressed. Especially now it is in the public domain.

There are also growing concerns about Hastings’ welfare. Expect this to become an issue.

This column has been told that a handful of players have made the case for Hastings to be selected, to put the team first before personality clashes.

This column is aware that Hastings has had issues at other clubs. I also have not been told exactly what happened between the players’ partners, so I can’t comment on whether the matter can be resolved. But we do know Hastings isn’t being selected, and the impact it’s having on the team.

Not many people outside the Knights are aware of this issue, and it was interesting to hear the club’s greatest player, Andrew Johns, calling for Hastings to be reinstated to the first grade side.

I assume Johns is not aware of the issue, but he made the following comments in a Sydney Morning Herald subscribers newsletter about the Knights and Hastings.

“Whatever faults he’s got as a player, Jackson will get them around the field,” Johns said. “His kicking game is up there with one of the best. I don’t know what’s happened there, but I don’t see Tyson Gamble as a halfback. He’s a good club five-eighth, but I don’t see him as a week in, week out halfback option.”

When asked about potential issues with senior players, Johns said: “For the good of the team, you have to put that aside. That’s a job of whoever is within the club. Whether it’s the CEO or someone else, you’ve got to get them all together and sort it out. The attack has been dull and they haven’t looked like penetrating defences.

“Everyone knows if Kalyn isn’t firing, then the Knights are pretty easy to handle.”

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This explains a fair bit. FFS, if the guys are getting mixed up in the issues of the Real Housewives of Newcastle, the leadership needs some serious shaking up - top to bottom.
JFC this club is a circus
 

Alex28

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Just read on Zero Tackle (which means it’s probably a figment of one of their writers imagination) that there is a chance Jacko goes immediately to Leeds…

Not holding my breath.
 
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Haha Hastings coming in changes nothing, in fact it would be worse than persisting with Cogger

Hastings has stunk up NSW Cup lately but he is the answer in 1st grade? Spare me. Sometimes I think the media makes up narratives that can't even hold water just to stir up the pleb Facebook fans....oh wait
 

Old dog

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Hastings is just filling in his time, if he played brilliantly he wouldnt be picked for 1sts so he coasts along, gets paid, no pressure no need to do anything but accept the pay check.
why put the effort in if not going to get picked, no incentive.
He is a better 7 than Gamble (more a 6), Cogger, Crossland and we are losing games without our best players, yes a half decent 7 would keep Hastings out even if he was available for selection which in turn doesn’t say a lot for Sutton
i am so frustrated with our selection policy
 

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