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Season 2025

Black Panther

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I agree with many aspects of your submission.

I’m now going to rate some of the players, hopefully cause some upset, disagreement and controversy!

Bula.

Maybe the weakest link in the side. I prefer my fullbacks to be much more dominant, like a Gutho, Ponga or GI.

Will have his chance to use his speed and skills up in the line in 2025.

tsp rating 5/10 Expectation 6/10 X factor D

Tito

Panthers fought hard to keep him, but like JL they underestimated his value.

Has great pace, elusiveness and is a bit of a craftsman. Reminds me a bit of nofo at his peak.

He’s a sub marquee player and it’s going to be nice to know we have a fighting chance if we hit space again.

Not given a lot of attention, but his positioning in attack is more than good.

7/10. Expectation: should improve. X factor C

Api

Unique factor player in his twilight. We’ve seen him break the line hundred times with no support. He’s big on combinations and the power of player understandings.

Has said he will have more time next season, which will suit him as he slows down.

Prone to the occasional brain snap, led an undisciplined side last year, but we are in new territory. One of the smug mafia.

Im Ok with him staying as captain. I think he’s earned it, despite fierce competition.

A difficult season last year, but he made it better.

8/10. Expectation 8.5/10. X factor A
No one under estimated the value of Luai or Turuva at Penrith. The simple fact is, the lower teams will pay overs for players to get them.
Good luck to the players for cashing in I say.
We got a replacement for Luai in Talagi, and we have better than Turuva in both McLean brothers. It’s the nature of the beast.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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No one under estimated the value of Luai or Turuva at Penrith. The simple fact is, the lower teams will pay overs for players to get them.
Good luck to the players for cashing in I say.
We got a replacement for Luai in Talagi, and we have better than Turuva in both McLean brothers. It’s the nature of the beast.
Just keep believing that, if it gets you through the off season.
 

Tigerm

Coach
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Confirming what a few have said.
Edit: Just reading that Sione Fainu is not yet confirmed.
 
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Vic Mackey

Referee
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No one under estimated the value of Luai or Turuva at Penrith. The simple fact is, the lower teams will pay overs for players to get them.
Good luck to the players for cashing in I say.
We got a replacement for Luai in Talagi, and we have better than Turuva in both McLean brothers. It’s the nature of the beast.

I don’t think Penrith will miss Turuva at all. The mcleans look very promising, more like centre from what I’ve seen but very talented. Clearly neither are better than Tito now, considering they were playing NSW cup.

Luai would be the biggest loss Penrith have had so far. Everyone has been saying how much pressure is on him this year, i think it’s the opposite. Jaromes coming to the worst team of the last 3 years, it’s not hard for him to improve them. However if Penrith don’t win the Comp or come top 2 then it’s impossible to say they haven’t regressed without Luai and maybe Nathan isn’t as good as everyone says. It’s worth nothing Jaromes winning % without Nathan is 17% higher then vise Versa.

Blaize looks good, however did play centre most of his juniors and parramatta saw fullback as his future. They preferred Asi to him at 5/8 last year, probably as TalagI was allergic to tackling.

‘Paying overs’ is an easy phrase to throw around when a player is missed, dragons fans used it on every player they failed to sign this off season. At the end of the day players can be worth different amounts to different teams, and the market dictates their value. When we paid $1.2m for Luai a year everyone laughed. If he was in the market today half the teams in the comp would fall over themselves to get him for that.

it will be interestin, you can’t fault penriths salary cap management over the last 5 years. I still have them top 2 in 25.
 
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Tigerm

Coach
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I think the pennies are at risk of becoming another Manly, if there star (Cleary) doesn't turn up, they will start to struggle.
They've obviously lost Luai but with both him and Fisher Harris gone, they will be hard to replace for on-field leadership.
They still have a few great players, but the tank is getting empty.
That's footy, you can't stay on top for ever.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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No one under estimated the value of Luai or Turuva at Penrith. The simple fact is, the lower teams will pay overs for players to get them.
Good luck to the players for cashing in I say.
We got a replacement for Luai in Talagi, and we have better than Turuva in both McLean brothers. It’s the nature of the beast.


When teams are successful lower ranked teams come calling with bulging cheque books. It's a fact of life. This makes it difficult for the higher team to match this incoming offers. It's the way of the world.

Part of me, is thrilled that these riff boys are setting themselves and their families up for life. Just like Kiks, Critta have done previously.
 
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R&R is tricky,
I think the pennies are at risk of becoming another Manly, if there star (Cleary) doesn't turn up, they will start to struggle.
They've obviously lost Luai but with both him and Fisher Harris gone, they will be hard to replace for on-field leadership.
They still have a few great players, but the tank is getting empty.
That's footy, you can't stay on top for ever.
Nate’s had that serious operation/S. I expect him to used quite judiciously this season and there’s no ready replacement.

They’ve done a good job, but not factoring Luai in their future planning seems to be a grave error of judgment.

I suspect he will have a much better season than Nate.
 

Aliceinwonderland

First Grade
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I don’t think Penrith will miss Turuva at all. The mcleans look very promising, more like centre from what I’ve seen but very talented. Clearly neither are better than Tito now, considering they were playing NSW cup.

Luai would be the biggest loss Penrith have had so far. Everyone has been saying how much pressure is on him this year, i think it’s the opposite. Jaromes coming to the worst team of the last 3 years, it’s not hard for him to improve them. However if Penrith don’t win the Comp or come top 2 then it’s impossible to say they haven’t regressed without Luai and maybe Nathan isn’t as good as everyone says. It’s worth nothing Jaromes winning % without Nathan is 17% higher then vise Versa.

Blaize looks good, however did play centre most of his juniors and parramatta saw fullback as his future. They preferred Asi to him at 5/8 last year, probably as TalagI was allergic to tackling.

‘Paying overs’ is an easy phrase to throw around when a player is missed, dragons fans used it on every player they failed to sign this off season. At the end of the day players can be worth different amounts to different teams, and the market dictates their value. When we paid $1.2m for Luai a year everyone laughed. If he was in the market today half the teams in the comp would fall over themselves to get him for that.

it will be interestin, you can’t fault penriths salary cap management over the last 5 years. I still have them top 2 in 25.


I agree Luai will be Penrith's biggest loss to cover in season 25.

It's going to be fascinating to see how it all pans out.

Yes, your right too about Penrith not being able to stay at the top forever.

Although it was also said when Api, Critta, Kiks all left in previous seasons, and we all know how that turned out.

What will help Penrith's cause is it's junior system....something that clubs like Manly don't have, and won't have in the future, (because I've heard they are no longer aligned to Blacktown Workers)

You're also right a lot hangs on the health of Cleary, Yeo and Edwards.

Shall be a ripper of a season/
 

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