Second Brisbane Club

[taipan]

They are not investing in the vrl so I'm not surprised not all.

Source?

 

[RL The greatest game]

You mean like setting up a Academy on the Sunshine Coast ??

How is setting up an academy on the sunshine coast going to grow juniors numbers in Victoria not unless a majority of them juniors are from Victoria?
I would hope that the Broncos, Cowboys and Titans would have academy's on the sunshine coast as well and all over Queensland.

 

[siv]

How is setting up an academy on the sunshine coast going to grow juniors numbers in Victoria not unless a majority of them juniors are from Victoria?
I would hope that the Broncos, Cowboys and Titans would have academy's on the sunshine coast as well and all over Queensland.

Dont ask me, Melbourne alrrady did it and make every fly their to playvtheir U20s

Except Penrith who won the club championship by getting their U20s match abandoned 1 point each

 

[TheFrog]

Dont ask me, Melbourne alrrady did it and make every fly their to playvtheir U20s

Except Penrith who won the club championship by getting their U20s match abandoned 1 point each

Penrith flew to the Sunshine Coast to play Melbourne but the place was flooded. By the end of the prelim rounds neither side could benefit by having the extra point anyway.

 

[T-Boon]

Dont ask me, Melbourne alrrady did it and make every fly their to playvtheir U20s

I didn't realise this.
Why do Melbourne Storm play their under 20s out of the Sunshine Coast?
Do they have any jnr teams playing out of Melbourne?

 

[siv]

Penrith flew to the Sunshine Coast to play Melbourne but the place was flooded. By the end of the prelim rounds neither side could benefit by having the extra point anyway.

Penrith did - they won the club championship by a point

Should have play it midweek like every other year - or it should have been a Penrith forfiet

It was the first abandoned premiership match since 1922

 

[siv]

I didn't realise this.
Why do Melbourne Storm play their under 20s out of the Sunshine Coast?
Do they have any jnr teams playing out of Melbourne?

VRL U18 and U16 teams playout of QLD

And as I mentioned they setup a academy also on the Sunshine Coast

 

[TheFrog]

Penrith did - they won the club championship by a point

Should have play it midweek like every other year - or it should have been a Penrith forfiet

It was the first abandoned premiership match since 1922

Why should Penrith have to forfeit? They turned up to play and the ground was flooded.

You have 18 and 19 year old kids in uni, approaching the HSC and whatever, and you want to force them to travel to Queensland midweek for a meaningless match. How ridiculous. Both clubs agreed. You haven't thought this through.

 

[Perth Red]

Source?

See above, storm jnr set up is in qlnd. Vrl has slipped behind NT into 3rd at affiliated state championship. Registered player numbers in Victoria falling when taking into account population increase. Two local players in first grade,And one of them gone to SL in over a decade. Plenty of evidence that the vrl is hardly thriving, presumably due to lack of investment.

 

[toomuchsoup]

new team should be called the Brisbane Teacups

 

[taipan]

See above, storm jnr set up is in qlnd. Vrl has slipped behind NT into 3rd at affiliated state championship. Registered player numbers in Victoria falling when taking into account population increase. Two local players in first grade,And one of them gone to SL in over a decade. Plenty of evidence that the vrl is hardly thriving, presumably due to lack of investment.

Have the playing numbers fallen in Victoria,I'm fully aware of the Sunshine Coast set up.Or have they risen but not kept pace with population growth?
If you compare regos with population growth the AFL numbers are falling in Vic.
The NRL only started getting involved in grassroots in Vic from 2005/7 from my understanding.The Storm have complained about the need for more funding,and they have been told that will be forthcoming.Meaning one would suggest from 2018 when the TV money comes in.That is the situation with the NRL clubs they don't get their big money til 2018(130% of the salary cap).

 

[Perth Red]

Increased,but not in line with population growth, ergo reality is they are not really great. Yeh I am sure one day they will grow the game, one day lol

 

[taipan]

Increased,but not in line with population growth, ergo reality is they are not really great. Yeh I am sure one day they will grow the game, one day lol

So they have increased their numbers,despite SFA publicity and having competition from soccer and the money of the AFL.
There are more obese kids in this country than ever before ,not playing sport in a growing population.To get any sort of growth these days is hardly sky falling in material.

And one day the whining will stop when Perth gets a club,and then we get get a good nights rest,instead of yawning all day.

 

[RoosTah]

It's good to see the NRL are growing in Melbourne, but they seriously need to do way WAY more down there.... the game needs to be pumping cash into the local competition to make it a genuinely high standard pathway. Maybe the storm could get Packer to help fund some program given their sponsorship - he's a big supporter of the NRL and has helped out the Panthers

 

[RL The greatest game]

It's good to see the NRL are growing in Melbourne, but they seriously need to do way WAY more down there.... the game needs to be pumping cash into the local competition to make it a genuinely high standard pathway. Maybe the storm could get Packer to help fund some program given their sponsorship - he's a big supporter of the NRL and has helped out the Panthers

There probably has never been a better time to exploit the Melbourne market.
Junior AF numbers are dropping like flies with so many kids there now playing soccer.
AF is on the nose with youngsters nowadays in Victoria and they and their parents are looking at other sports to play.

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Ideally, a 2nd Brisbane team should always being there from day one but Broncos wanted to monopoly the rl scene and gave the other codes the free kick due to there self-interest and selfishness. As a result, at one point of time the Lions/Reds outdrew the Broncos which is embarrassing for a 'league capital' Brisbane.

The fact AFL has two teams in Sydney (non-heartland) and NRL has one in Brisbane (heartland) said it all really, for such a tough sport it lacks courage and vision from it's administration time and time again. WA/Brisbane 2 would of been the best of both worlds (heartland/frontier).

In the 90's they should of just stuck with the original class of 95 expansion teams, I mean around this time the Swans/Lions were awful and AFL keep digging in no matter what but the NRL folded the moment adversity occurred.

For the cancelled expansion teams to get 2 years just unfair to them as they have never got a proper chance as it would of took 5-10 years to come good. Look at the Cowboys, rough start but come 04 it turned around after financial trouble.

Cowboys got a financial life-line yet the other expansion clubs didn't and they just want right, if you're going to expand there had to be full commitment to invest in those intial years but the NRL/News back then put in the too hard basket.

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Hypothetically as a result of WA/Brisbane 2 staying around the Melbourne side would consist the best of Hunter/Adelaide squad. As the origin of the Storm did have members from Mariners/Reds.

Adelaide/Hunter would not of being bought in the first place and instead NRL keep bringing games to SA annually least 4/5 mainly NSW vs interstate teams. That would be the best 18 team competition as it has the mixture of city, regional and international something the AFL would never have.

 

[RoosTah]

Ideally, a 2nd Brisbane team should always being there from day one but Broncos wanted to monopoly the rl scene and gave the other codes the free kick due to there self-interest and selfishness. As a result, at one point of time the Lions/Reds outdrew the Broncos which is embarrassing for a 'league capital' Brisbane.

The fact AFL has two teams in Sydney (non-heartland) and NRL has one in Brisbane (heartland) said it all really, for such a tough sport it lacks courage and vision from it's administration time and time again. WA/Brisbane 2 would of been the best of both worlds (heartland/frontier).

In the 90's they should of just stuck with the original class of 95 expansion teams, I mean around this time the Swans/Lions were awful and AFL keep digging in no matter what but the NRL folded the moment adversity occurred.

For the cancelled expansion teams to get 2 years just unfair to them as they have never got a proper chance as it would of took 5-10 years to come good. Look at the Cowboys, rough start but come 04 it turned around after financial trouble.

Cowboys got a financial life-line yet the other expansion clubs didn't and they just want right, if you're going to expand there had to be full commitment to invest in those initial years but the NRL/News back then put in the too hard basket.

Ideally, yes you would, but ideally we'd have less teams in Sydney as well... it's a tricky one because these things tend to develop organically, and that makes them messy.

From a strategic standpoint I think having a 2nd Brisbane team is important, but less so than having a Perth side or a 2nd New Zealand side from a growth standpoint.

 

[T-Boon]

From a strategic standpoint I think having a 2nd Brisbane team is important, but less so than having a Perth side or a 2nd New Zealand side from a growth standpoint.

In my opinion the biggest reason to bring a second Brisbane team is equity. That puts Brisbane Crimson Tide in front of Western Panthers and Wellington Roosters time frame wise.

 

[RL The greatest game]

Ideally, a 2nd Brisbane team should always being there from day one but Broncos wanted to monopoly the rl scene and gave the other codes the free kick due to there self-interest and selfishness. As a result, at one point of time the Lions/Reds outdrew the Broncos which is embarrassing for a 'league capital' Brisbane.

The fact AFL has two teams in Sydney (non-heartland) and NRL has one in Brisbane (heartland) said it all really, for such a tough sport it lacks courage and vision from it's administration time and time again. WA/Brisbane 2 would of been the best of both worlds (heartland/frontier).

In the 90's they should of just stuck with the original class of 95 expansion teams, I mean around this time the Swans/Lions were awful and AFL keep digging in no matter what but the NRL folded the moment adversity occurred.

For the cancelled expansion teams to get 2 years just unfair to them as they have never got a proper chance as it would of took 5-10 years to come good. Look at the Cowboys, rough start but come 04 it turned around after financial trouble.

Cowboys got a financial life-line yet the other expansion clubs didn't and they just want right, if you're going to expand there had to be full commitment to invest in those intial years but the NRL/News back then put in the too hard basket.

Another NRL club in Queensland would kill of aFL for good in Queensland