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Semi RaDrama

El Diablo

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did I?
I basically said you were wrong did I?


you wrote


and I wrote


If I thought you were wrong I'd just say you were wrong.
Like right now
You are wrong and I am right.

You just misunderstood my post .
I can't help that.

i''m the one who misunderstood :lol:

i posted that it was ridiculous that the NRL wanted him stood down because the media had been speculating he was pissing off to France to play RU

you then decided to reply to that post saying it was now a police investigation

clearly that can only be interpreted as you saying the police were investigating whether he was going to RU seeing that was what i was posting about

get you carer to to explain it to you ffs
 

carcharias

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I never said I hated you, my friend.

However, I do have the ability to read and I can see where you went wrong in your response to El Diablo.

So you are of the belief him being arrested would have no impact on the NRL's decision to ask him to be stood down?

Because that was my question really.

Any halfwit knows that the second he was arrested it had become about more than just him being awol.

But pls carry on denial .
 

Jaegerex

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i never said it wasn't

if you read the article the reason the NRL wanted him stood down is because of that reason though, not DV

i'll post it again

You obviously either didn't read the entire article, or cherry picked a couple lines to suit your fairy tale narrative.

This is the line right above your selected quote.

While the NRL will not interfere or force the Eels to stand him down, Fairfax Media understands the code believes the winger should be stood down this weekend based on all the factors that have dominated the headlines for the past fortnight.

Was the DV allegations and charges not some of those headlines? Or has the only thing he has been in the press for, are the rumours floating around of him code switching?

The NRL believes Radradra's decision not to return to training on time and the fact he has seemingly held the game to ransom with the threat of leaving to play French rugby isn't a good look for the sport.

That doesn't say should be stood down, just that it isn't a good look. Which it isn't, but it is purely speculation at this point in time.

So to spout that the NRL's opinion, that he should be standing or stood down, is based only only the rumour of leaving and not turning up to training is absolute fallacy, it may play a part but so does the domestic violence allegations and charges.

Personal opinion, innocent until proven guilty and rumours & speculation are just that. Let him play. If his coach and team mates weren't fine with him missing training, that would be for them and them alone to deal with.
 

Jaegerex

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read the articles headline

and the NRL would not be saying he should be stood down for DV charges after Smith made it clear SKD would not be stood down http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ous-on-domestic-violence-20150719-gifpur.html

Cherry picking again.

The line you quote.

The NRL believes Radradra's decision not to return to training on time and the fact he has seemingly held the game to ransom with the threat of leaving to play French rugby isn't a good look for the sport.

Does not mention standing him down.

This line, however does.

While the NRL will not interfere or force the Eels to stand him down, Fairfax Media understands the code believes the winger should be stood down this weekend based on all the factors that have dominated the headlines for the past fortnight.

Which would encapsulate the domestic violence issues. So yes, they wished for him to be stood down for multiple reasons. So for you to use a line that has no connotation towards standing Semi down as being the sole reason for it is simple fallacy.

Smith is also not the NRL, nor even a part of it anymore. So his stance and decisions in the past do not represent the games current ruling body.
 

El Diablo

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So for you to use a line that has no connotation towards standing Semi down as being the sole reason for it is simple fallacy.

wrong

as without the media speculation about him going to RU then the only consideration would be the DV charge

it is not his fault the media said he was pissing off and created days worth of bad headlines that the NRL weren't happy with
 

Jaegerex

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wrong

as without the media speculation about him going to RU then the only consideration would be the DV charge

it is not his fault the media said he was pissing off and created days worth of bad headlines that the NRL weren't happy with

Good to see the cherry picking continue and for you to ignore the word sole (meaning: only) in what you quoted. And it is hardly wrong as

i never said it wasn't

if you read the article the reason the NRL wanted him stood down is because of that reason though, not DV

i'll post it again

There you stated the reason the NRL wanted him stood down was because of the speculation and not the domestic violence allegations and charges.

But, from the exact same article you quoted, on the line before.

While the NRL will not interfere or force the Eels to stand him down, Fairfax Media understands the code believes the winger should be stood down this weekend based on all the factors that have dominated the headlines for the past fortnight.

Notice the word all that was used there? This means the domestic violence allegations and charges were a part of the NRL's request he be stood down.

So my claim on your fallacy is accurate and true.

Unless you are now saying that it was both the media speculation and the DV charge being the reason the NRL wished for him to stand down, in which case your back flip would be nearly as impressive as Friend's flip pass.

While I agree with you that he shouldn't be standing down for any of the factors that have come to light, your earlier claims were incorrect and reek of a victimhood mentality that the media & Nrl have an agenda against your club and player.
I can understand things being close to the heart and it not being easy to remain poised and unbiased about those subjects (I rarely was when it came to the Sharks and ASADA), but if you wish for your points to be taken seriously and into consideration then the best way is to remove your emotion and personal bias from the equation.
 

carcharias

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El Diablo

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Good to see the cherry picking continue and for you to ignore the word sole (meaning: only) in what you quoted. And it is hardly wrong as



There you stated the reason the NRL wanted him stood down was because of the speculation and not the domestic violence allegations and charges.

But, from the exact same article you quoted, on the line before.



Notice the word all that was used there? This means the domestic violence allegations and charges were a part of the NRL's request he be stood down.

So my claim on your fallacy is accurate and true.

Unless you are now saying that it was both the media speculation and the DV charge being the reason the NRL wished for him to stand down, in which case your back flip would be nearly as impressive as Friend's flip pass.

While I agree with you that he shouldn't be standing down for any of the factors that have come to light, your earlier claims were incorrect and reek of a victimhood mentality that the media & Nrl have an agenda against your club and player.
I can understand things being close to the heart and it not being easy to remain poised and unbiased about those subjects (I rarely was when it came to the Sharks and ASADA), but if you wish for your points to be taken seriously and into consideration then the best way is to remove your emotion and personal bias from the equation.

it was not cherry picking

without the speculation of a move to RU the NRL would not want him stood down as it would only be DV that could be the reason
 

Jaegerex

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Yeah I sometimes think I went into the wrong occupation.

it was not cherry picking

without the speculation of a move to RU the NRL would not want him stood down as it would only be DV that could be the reason

Him being brought in for questioning by the police was never going to help, if the NRL would of wished for him to stand down were it only that, we don't know. Still it played a part in their request.

Those in charge have changed and when that happens precedents usually get thrown out the window with them, unless you are the judiciary and then they roll dice regardless.

Anyhow, up the Sharks tonight. I'm sure the crowd is going to give him heaps.
 

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