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planeteels

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If mclinden was/is to come to parra.. i can see another mcfadden situation arising..

I just don't think mclinden would be suited to a smith coached side...
 

The Colonel

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planeteels said:
If mclinden was/is to come to parra.. i can see another mcfadden situation arising..

I just don't think mclinden would be suited to a smith coached side...

He is doing reasonably well under Elliot who has adopted a similar style to that of Smith - much of their play being centred from acting half. ;-)
 

Misty Bee

First Grade
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True EEL said:
Misty Bee said:
True Eel, Luke Burt was never on fire at fullback. He survived, and never matched what McKinnon has done.

Misty

nothing personal at all.....but he "was" on fire at fullback, particularly in attack and even came up with a couple of good defensive plays (occasionally)

he was scoring tries and running off the forwards (particularly Cayless) and even had Peter Badel or someone in Big League write an article about him being on fire and regaining some of the form he ahd shown in the past and and perhaps living up to his potential!!!!!!!

were you watching those early games or not????

Yeah I was. Were you?

If Burt was 'on fire' how come he was replaced by the reggies custodian???? :roll:
 

True EEL

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Misty Bee said:
True EEL said:
Misty Bee said:
True Eel, Luke Burt was never on fire at fullback. He survived, and never matched what McKinnon has done.

Misty

nothing personal at all.....but he "was" on fire at fullback, particularly in attack and even came up with a couple of good defensive plays (occasionally)

he was scoring tries and running off the forwards (particularly Cayless) and even had Peter Badel or someone in Big League write an article about him being on fire and regaining some of the form he ahd shown in the past and and perhaps living up to his potential!!!!!!!

were you watching those early games or not????

Yeah I was. Were you?

If Burt was 'on fire' how come he was replaced by the reggies custodian???? :roll:

yes Misty i was watching

and there is a very simple answer to your question.....Burt was injured and got replaced by the reserve garde halfback for a game.....who played so well and so well since that he has become irreplaceable, particularly in terms of his defence, which was Burts main deficiency at fullback (and in general)

pretty starightforward i would have thought????

add to that the fact that BS loves to fall in love with a new fullback every year or so......he has proven that
 

fish eel

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Burt was doing well at Fullback Misty.

He missed a couple of games through injury, wade got a chance and more than made the most of it. If Burtie never got hurt, I'm pretty sure he'd still have the one on his back
 

True EEL

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fish eel said:
Burt was doing well at Fullback Misty.

He missed a couple of games through injury, wade got a chance and more than made the most of it. If Burtie never got hurt, I'm pretty sure he'd still have the one on his back

thank you.

perhaps i'm not such an idiot misty??? or perhaps fish eel is just as bigger idiot as me is that correct??
 

True EEL

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LOL fish

but i agree Wade has been a revelation and hopefully should only get better, i can see him playing SOO in the next couple of years.....he just has to dress in red, blue and white??
 

The Engineers Room

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Misty Bee said:
True EEL said:
Misty Bee said:
True Eel, Luke Burt was never on fire at fullback. He survived, and never matched what McKinnon has done.

Misty

nothing personal at all.....but he "was" on fire at fullback, particularly in attack and even came up with a couple of good defensive plays (occasionally)

he was scoring tries and running off the forwards (particularly Cayless) and even had Peter Badel or someone in Big League write an article about him being on fire and regaining some of the form he ahd shown in the past and and perhaps living up to his potential!!!!!!!

were you watching those early games or not????

Yeah I was. Were you?

If Burt was 'on fire' how come he was replaced by the reggies custodian???? :roll:

He was moved to the centres to cover for the loss we had there.

Imagine a Parramatta side next year like this:

1. Wade McKinnon
2. Timana Tahu
3. Luke Burt
4. Luke ODwyer
5. Eric Grothe

6. Mark McLinden
7. John Morris

8. Paul Stringer
9. Mark Riddell
10. Chad Robinson
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Nathan Cayless
13. Glenn Morrison

14. Dean Widders
15. Michael Vella
16. Michael Witt / Chris Thorman
17. Aaron Cannings

Plus we would have a lot more depth in Premier League.
 

yy_cheng

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Burt played OK at fullback but nowhere as good as Mckinnon has. The best I have seen Burt play this year is in the 7's.

Somehow, he doesn't have the confidence or LICENSE to ROVE in the 13 a side game.

I'm not that confident with Witt and Morris but if the pack is going forward and dominating, they could do ok.

Last year, I thought Witt had an incredible kicking game in the opponents redzone. He was looking one way and kicking the other, banana kicks, etc. But this year, it's just the BOMB. What happenned??? Was Cleal his kicking coach and now that he is gone, he doesn't know how to kick? I remember when CLeal did these funny drop outs in the SOO in the rain many years ago which resembles WItt's dropouts.

Lastly, in 2001, we had lots of second phase play with Hindy, Cayless, Vella, Ryan, SOlo (not sure was he playing for us then) providing lots of second phase play. This year, ZIP!!

If our forwards could play like that again, then the halves combo is really only necessary for clearing kicks and last play options in the opponents redzone. And therefore, we would be less dependent on them so we could potentially do well with weak halves.

Having said that, with a pack of Morrison, Hindy, Cayless, Riddell, Tsolous providing ball playing skills, we could potentially mold our game back to a forwards game. Just like when we had Smith, Dymock & Pay.

IF ONLY.......
 

The Colonel

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Vaealiki, Tahu, O'Dwyer and Smith will get a look in at centre before Burty will next year. Burty may well get his roving commission on the wing..... if Tahu adapts to the centres quite well.
 

The Engineers Room

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Sorry David Vaealiki, you were my forgotten man. I only named Burt because he has shown some attacking skills of drawing in the opposing winger like Gidley does with Tahu.

I'd like to see this side then:

1. Wade McKinnon
2. Timana Tahu
3. Luke ODwyer
4. David Vaealiki
5. Eric Grothe

6. Mark McLinden
7. John Morris

8. Paul Stringer
9. Mark Riddell
10. Chad Robinson
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Nathan Cayless
13. Glenn Morrison

14. Dean Widders
15. Michael Vella
16. Luke Burt (comes on to play half when Riddell is off)
17. Aaron Cannings
 

Twizzle

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*sigh*

why is it always next year

when will it be this year

seems like we did all this last year

oh well,

all good things come to those who wait, and thanks to BS, we have waited a long time
 

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