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Sheens Rumours

Steelman

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While at the dragons cowboys game last night blowing the top off a few cold frothy ones with some old dragons mates the name Tim Sheens kept coming up in conversation . Seems there's a faction within the club that want Tim as coach. When?? Probably 2014 . Seems the battle behind the sences has began

Stay tuned dragons fans;-)
 
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BennyV

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Not this again! I am a big supporter of Doust and while I officially jumped off the Price bandwagon last night (although I wont death ride him like some idiots on here) if Tim Sheens becomes our coach I will hire an army of sellswords and march on the Taj!

I can see some advantages of having him in a Phil Gould-style coaching director role - he has a good eye for young talent and plenty of experience to provide advice. But PLEASE not as a head coach, surely there are better options...
 

dragonrickjs

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Do people realise that the tigers are struggling now because of sheens? Look at the players he has let go and the players he brought to replace them. I don't want sheens anywhere near the dragons!!

As for price I've been a supporter but no longer. The isn't learning anything from his past mistakes and it is now obvious he isn't up for the job.
 

Amozzie

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Cowboys & Tigers fans would wet themselves at such a prospect.

We'd probably receive their collective sympathy. Which would say it all.
 

Country Dragon

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Do people realise that the tigers are struggling now because of sheens? Look at the players he has let go and the players he brought to replace them. I don't want sheens anywhere near the dragons!!

As for price I've been a supporter but no longer. The isn't learning anything from his past mistakes and it is now obvious he isn't up for the job.

I agree with all of this, especially the part about Sheens. We just can't stuff up with the next coach, and hiring Sheens would be a monumental stuff up!
 
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Sheens is a terrible coach.....three final appearances in 15 years.....not good enough! Dragons fans hated on browny and price for much much less than that
 

Efresh

Coach
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Not this again! I am a big supporter of Doust and while I officially jumped off the Price bandwagon last night (although I wont death ride him like some idiots on here) if Tim Sheens becomes our coach I will hire an army of sellswords and march on the Taj!

You can save on one of those sellswords, I'll march with you for free :cool:
 

FlameThrower

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Then question is if not PRICE, not SHEENS who else is out there? I have a dark-horse in Daniel Anderson, no nonsense coach, tells it like it is and has experience. If worst case scenario is PRICE for 2014, then i agree with the idea of Coaching Director would be worth a try. Over to you fellas!!!!!!!!
 

DUB888

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A Coaching Director is a good call but doesn't he need a Coach to Direct instead of the "Water Boy" who is in charge at the moment
 
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A coaching director is a waste of money why have a coach if you need to hire someone else to coach the coach just get a good coach to begin with.but sheens would command respect he does coach the best team in the world (aust)and the players he let go at the tigers out of Gibbs heighington Ryan and fifita only fifita is doing anything at he moment and most were let go due to salary cap restraints his biggest mistake was letting Marshall and Farrah wield too much power at the club and that bit him in e arse in the end but he would be a big improvement on price,remember he does know how to win a comp something price doesn't.
 

TheRev

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o Every week someone elses drops off the Price-Wagon, but I dont understand why you watch the same thing for 2 yrs and let it happen.. hes just doing his best.. us fans are the idiots for letting him sink our players and club.

o Im not as violently opposed to Sheens as some of you, I like the way he talks, the only problem is hes a dinosaur.. but its a big step up from Price anyway, so I dont think we need to panic.

o And you cant compare us to Penrith's Cleary/Gould... Cleary is actually a good coach, very different situation, right now Price doesnt bring anything to the table. Also Gould is a special case its celebrity star-power he is bringing plus he happens to be the best origin coach we have seen for nsw, he might be a dill at times but hes extremely astute.
 

Puff

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I am not in team Sheens. However, for those that are saying no to Sheens please give us what your option is as well. Price shouldn't be a coach, he had a winning formula left for him by Bennett, and he wanted to change that. Upstairs for thinking Price. However, who is out there considering we missed out on Bellamy and Bennett has been and gone. Who would be the next best coach to go all in on?

As I said Price has to go, I am not sold in Sheens, however who else is there? If Sheens were to come I wouldn't be upset, pretty much because I can't see a better option. So if not Sheens then who, don't just sit there and call a jihad on a sheens appointment, be constructive.
 

God-King Dean

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I find it comically ironic that there are those who want Price replaced by Sheens.

Using the same useless game plan.
The same players every week.
Using a centre at 5/8th, a backrower at centre, despite having talent in reserve grade.

Hmm, sounds familiar.
 

Coffs dragon

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I am not a fan of Sheens either, but the bloke demands respect and is spoken about in glowing terms by those he has worked with and influenced. Daley, Stuart, Meninga, Bellamy, Furner, Maguire, Cartwright have all developed into coaching roles under his tutoring. He is a great communicator and teacher, just what our young players need. History shows that success for the D.ragons has been achieved with the older and wiser type in Harry Bath and Wayne Bennett. Sure Sheens maybe a Dinosaur, but he has the wisdom to pass on over a short term 3 year stay. I would like to see Dean Young as his assistant to develop his future coaching role within the mighty REDV. Steve Price is nothing more than a prized tool, having screwed everything he touches . Enough is enough.
 

possm

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I think that in this point in time, Sheens is our best option. There are some on here who would compare the management of the Tigers Club to ours however, they are not in the same class. While our joint venture has been relatively smoothly mananged, the Tigres have had in-fighting at management level since day one. Unfortunately directors and the outgoing CEO involved senior players in their political battles to the extent that Sheens's authority at the Tigers was undermned.

Sure we have some short commings within our Club management however, it has never spilt over into the playing squad.

Sheens may not be the very best option however, I believe he is the best option available right now. Maybe a two year contract beginning in 2014 would be appropriate. I am sure he would make a positive difference to our Club and command the respect necessary to bring out the best in our roster.

The main thing is that Price needs to be replaced in order for our team to progress.
 

stg666

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is there a full moon or what . some crazies are about . f f s , tim sheens as coach, get a grip loonies.
 

W.Smith

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Then question is if not PRICE, not SHEENS who else is out there? I have a dark-horse in Daniel Anderson, no nonsense coach, tells it like it is and has experience. If worst case scenario is PRICE for 2014, then i agree with the idea of Coaching Director would be worth a try. Over to you fellas!!!!!!!!

i like Anderson and read in Monty Betham's book that one day at Penrith with th Warriors getting lapped at halftime after leading 12-0 the Coach just walked into the dressing rooms walked up to each player pointing at them and just F#%k You ! to each of them

the Warriors came out in the second half and thrashed the Panthers

here is an excerpt from Monty's yarn that i dig about Ando -

"Daniel had a lot of love for them early on and everyone likes feeling the love, and when they got it from the coach they'd want to give it back to him by performing. But that relationship slowly got eroded.

"Their spirits were low because they didn't like being spoken to the way Daniel was speaking to them. Every other word was the f-word and it was delivered with so much anger and intensity."

After taking the Warriors to the 2002 grand final, he went one better in England when Saints won the 2006 premiership. He also oversaw Challenge Cup victories in 2006, 2007 and 2008 and a further two Super League grand final appearances.

His half-time tirade in this year's premiership decider has been well publicised after an animated Anderson was captured by the dressing-room cameras laying down the law to the St Helens players. It was a tactic he had employed with success at the Warriors during a game against Penrith in 2001.

After leading 12-0 early, the Warriors went to the interval trailing 26-12 and according to Betham and former Warriors chief executive Mick Watson, Anderson delivered one of his briefest but most effective half-time talks - saying "f--- you" to each of the 17-man squad and then "f--- the lot of you" before walking out of the room.


"I walked in at half-time ? [it was] f--- you, f--- you, f--- you. We were down and out. It was terrible," says Watson, who left the ground in disgust and listened on his car radio as the Warriors staged a remarkable second-half comeback.

Betham defended Anderson's speech, saying: "Hey, it worked. Sometimes he'd swear at one or two of the boys but the rest of us would get 'you're doing well' or 'keep doing that'. But not that time. We all got the serve and we all responded."
 

stg666

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after winning the comp a couple of years ago i am prepared for a rebuilding period , and after being raped and piliged by newcastle steve prices job was not made easy. admittedly we could be better placed but..... there is half a comp to go this year with numerous home games and the boys can only get better. i am all for steve price staying and with the inclusion of the new players and the experience the currant young ones will get throughout the rest of this year i am confident we will have a good year in 2014. i am not convinced that this years top 8 is beyond us yet.....ever the optimist.
 

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