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SHM: Guru & Finchy comment on banning booze.

TheRam

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There are plenty of substances that are banned from an athletes point of view. I don't see swimmers crying foul of their civil liberties because they can't take a codral.

Whilst I don't advocate a booze ban, I think there is a time and place for everything and these athletes need to be more intelligent about what they put in their bodies and when.


Gronk I may not agree with what people do or consume, but what business is it of mine or anyone else's to say what they can or can't do as long as they are not violating someone else's equal rights.

As far as the argument goes that the club is paying them to perform, well then it comes down to each individual employer to make their own rules, and see if the employees agree to tolerate those rules. And if it truly is a free market, then you will find that no employer would ever get away with a ban on anything that is legal.

Also if the NRL, which I don't believe they ever would even consider such a ridiculous thing, as amateurish as they are, ever brought in a blanket ban on alcohol, then it would not be to long before you saw players leave the NRL in absolute droves to other leagues or codes. There is no fu*king way man. The clowns that are suggesting such a thing have no freakin idea. By the way, I do not think that it would hold up in any real court either.

We are not talking about performance enhancing drugs that the whole world at this point in time frowns upon and have collectively band.
 

TheRam

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There are plenty of substances that are banned from an athletes point of view. I don't see swimmers crying foul of their civil liberties because they can't take a codral.

Whilst I don't advocate a booze ban, I think there is a time and place for everything and these athletes need to be more intelligent about what they put in their bodies and when.

When was the last time we all went to the pub to scull some codral, Gronk. People do not complain about these other band substances because they are not products that people have been taking for millennia as a recreational relaxant or social lubricant. If an athlete needs anything that is on the band list, for whatever reason, then they find alternatives.

Alcohol as everybody knows is different and there is now way that it will ever be banned, unless we are under a dictatorship of some kind. Remember it has been tried and failed. ;-)
 
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fish eel

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I thought he was involved in the same incident that Cayless was?

Cayless - The plasma screen thing? I'm foggy on that as it was pretty minor.

I dont ever remember Hindmarsh being named as being personally involved in any wrong doing.

IIRC, he was part of the group that went to the cricket the day of the Cross incident?
 

bartman

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I thought it was the two nathan's allegedly in an elevator in the casino in their younger days, allegedly with damages having to be paid, but allegedly I could be wrong.
 

strider

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yeah i recall hindy was with caylo - but i don't think he was ever said to have done anything wrong - caylo did it and paid for it
 

fish eel

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I thought it was the two nathan's allegedly in an elevator in the casino in their younger days, allegedly with damages having to be paid, but allegedly I could be wrong.

yeah i recall hindy was with caylo - but i don't think he was ever said to have done anything wrong - caylo did it and paid for it

and I thought it was in the last year or 2?
 

lingard

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I would say about 95% of NRL players are responsible drinkers, its the 5% that arent that give the sport a bad name. The only thing I think some of the boys need is a lesson on responsible drinking,which I am sure the NRL were doing anyway.:?

Absolutely! When you consider that NRL players are young blokes who are super fit with high testosterone levels, etc, it`s absolutely AMAZING that alcohol-fuelled incidents aren`t ten times higher than they are. As you said, the VAST majority are astoundingly well-behaved. It`s that tiny minority that gives the game a bad...... no, actually, it`s the media that gives the game a bad name.
 

Hellsy

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Hindy was with Caylo but was in no way involved, it was all Caylo that night. I think I even remember the reports saying Hindy tried to calm Caylo
 

lingard

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And while we`re talking about alcohol-fuelled incidents and NRL players - how many 'incidents' are reported on the news and in the papers every week that involve people who aren`t NRL players? Think about it. Car accidents, assaults, murders, rapes, teenagers on the rampage, taxi-drivers assaulted: all by people who AREN`T footy players. Yep, bad NRL players are a tiny minority folks. The media wins again.
 

hineyrulz

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And if the NRL paid newpapers and TV channels like the AFL do we wouldn't cop nowhere near the bad coverage that we do. At least Gallop hasn't sunk to that level yet.
 

Fee

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Hindy was with Caylo but was in no way involved, it was all Caylo that night. I think I even remember the reports saying Hindy tried to calm Caylo

Pretty sure you are right Hellsy, I remember that really well , and I remember the same thing being said.
 

Nikki

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Ok, I have the perfect solution. Once the season begins, player are only allowed to drink and gamble in their respective Leagues Club. Therefore putting money back into the NRL and Club CEO's are able to keep an eye on them.... lol
 

chef

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Absolutely! When you consider that NRL players are young blokes who are super fit with high testosterone levels, etc, it`s absolutely AMAZING that alcohol-fuelled incidents aren`t ten times higher than they are. As you said, the VAST majority are astoundingly well-behaved. It`s that tiny minority that gives the game a bad...... no, actually, it`s the media that gives the game a bad name.

I was interested to know why, and how, you came to this opinion lingard...

how did you define an "incident"...coming to the attention of the Criminal Justice system, or just the media, a la Barrett's push-ups in his underpants. And why "absolutely AMAZING" that more aren't involved anyway ?

there may well be ten times as many alcohol fuelled 'incidents' that go unnoticed...who's to say.

And while we`re talking about alcohol-fuelled incidents and NRL players - how many 'incidents' are reported on the news and in the papers every week that involve people who aren`t NRL players? Think about it. Car accidents, assaults, murders, rapes, teenagers on the rampage, taxi-drivers assaulted: all by people who AREN`T footy players. Yep, bad NRL players are a tiny minority folks. The media wins again.

Then I saw this and it became clearer...a Telegraph reader no doubt.

The term 'role models' mean anything to you champ, eh!
 

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